Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[Bucket]

I dont know why everyone is hating on Rex Grossman. Yeah, the guy did poorly for a couple year in Chicago, but inmy opinion the Chicago Bears were worse off on the offensive side of the football then we are now back then.

Mcnabb has played BELOW Average this year. He has missed several WR's. Underthrown several more. Anthony Armstrong should have atleast 2-3 more TD's this year. Moss was wide open last week in the endzone waiting for the pass, and this has happen week in, an week out. If this was J.C. everyone would be screaming for the backup, or if it was Brunell a few years ago. Everyone would be sceremaing for the backup.

Mcnabb just doesn't fit this offense. I would think it would take him 3-4 years to learn it. He can't even run the WHOLE offense yet. I mean we always talk about how predictable we are on offense. Alot of it has to do with not being able to run half the playbook.

I'm excited to see what Grossman can do. Maybe him earning his roster spot will put some fire under him, and make him perform at a top level. I mean he can't get any worse then Mcnabb has been this year.

I don't really want to hear about the "talent" level we have. There has been several times like in Philly pt. 1. Where we ran the ball for over 120 yards, but Mcnabb still couldn't find open WR's down the field, and it wasn't because they were not open. Its because he didn't even find them.

The week before last it was 3rd and 5, and Armstrong right a flat pattern out of a trips set, and was wide open for atleast 15 yards in front of him, and Mcnabb had plenty of time but threw it into double coverage LOW to Cooley. 70% of the time Mcnabb is throwing low to our WR's so they never get any yards after the catch. They ahve to catch it off the ground like Moss's catch last week that was ruled incomplete because it was 2 yards behind him and low.. I mean.. That's a 15 yard pass to and OPEN WR.

I'm excited about tomorrow. I wanna see what Rex can do. If anything it makes us younger at the QB position, and if he does well it could give us some stability for a change.

[SkinzWin]

The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing for so long.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing.

The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

Oh I agree that we are too old to win but I was saying the Raiders may have been older than this team back then lol.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Oh I agree that we are too old to win but I was saying the Raiders may have been older than this team back then lol.

Only because of Rich Gannon. lol

[Dread-Skin]

Why resign McNabb and even keep him if he is moving down the depth chart?

AND I WANT A REFUND ON MY MCNABB JERSEY AND THE ONE I BOUGHT FOR THE GF, THIS IS BS !!!!!!

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I dont know why everyone is hating on Rex Grossman. Yeah, the guy did poorly for a couple year in Chicago, but inmy opinion the Chicago Bears were worse off on the offensive side of the football then we are now back then.

Mcnabb has played BELOW Average this year. He has missed several WR's. Underthrown several more. Anthony Armstrong should have atleast 2-3 more TD's this year. Moss was wide open last week in the endzone waiting for the pass, and this has happen week in, an week out. If this was J.C. everyone would be screaming for the backup, or if it was Brunell a few years ago. Everyone would be sceremaing for the backup.

Mcnabb just doesn't fit this offense. I would think it would take him 3-4 years to learn it. He can't even run the WHOLE offense yet. I mean we always talk about how predictable we are on offense. Alot of it has to do with not being able to run half the playbook.

I'm excited to see what Grossman can do. Maybe him earning his roster spot will put some fire under him, and make him perform at a top level. I mean he can't get any worse then Mcnabb has been this year.

I don't really want to hear about the "talent" level we have. There has been several times like in Philly pt. 1. Where we ran the ball for over 120 yards, but Mcnabb still couldn't find open WR's down the field, and it wasn't because they were not open. Its because he didn't even find them.

The week before last it was 3rd and 5, and Armstrong right a flat pattern out of a trips set, and was wide open for atleast 15 yards in front of him, and Mcnabb had plenty of time but threw it into double coverage LOW to Cooley. 70% of the time Mcnabb is throwing low to our WR's so they never get any yards after the catch. They ahve to catch it off the ground like Moss's catch last week that was ruled incomplete because it was 2 yards behind him and low.. I mean.. That's a 15 yard pass to and OPEN WR.

I'm excited about tomorrow. I wanna see what Rex can do. If anything it makes us younger at the QB position, and if he does well it could give us some stability for a change.

I'm not excited, but I do think the offense will be livelier tomorrow. I also agree that we should actually let Grossman show his stuff here before hanging him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dread-Skin

Why resign McNabb and even keep him if he is moving down the depth chart?

AND I WANT A REFUND ON MY MCNABB JERSEY AND THE ONE I BOUGHT FOR THE GF, THIS IS BS !!!!!!

That's y I buy the Chinese fakes lmao

[Dirtbag59]

I'm personally more interested in seeing what Beck can do so hopefully he'll get a shot.

[Eknox]

I support the coaches decision Mcnabb has done nothing to deserve to keep playing, besides that we need a high 1st round pick. Who better to help than sexy Tech.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Carolina is going to get Luck if he comes out, no doubt. But he's a 21 year old kid who would be passing up a legitimate shot to win the national championship to go first overall in a year where he doesn't even get to read the CBA under which he will sign his contract before he declares. That's a terrible deal for the kid.

His major is architectural design at Stanford. You don't study that for three years to decide to get your degree later. Just saying.

The Panthers drafted 2 qb's last years NFL draft in Jimmy Clausen and Pike kid from Cinncinati. It will be interesting to see if they spend another high pick on a young QB again this coming draft.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I just cant believe the mess ShanaASS has made of skins.I hope Snyder fires him after the season,theres no way anybody could be worse.But with the lockout looming along with ShanaASS's contract dont see it happening.Probably keep Haslett also.

Fire Shanny after 1 season are you on crack or what? Thats exactley what the old Synder may have done but anyone that knows football you just dont hire and fire coach year after year and expect to be a winning team.

[Dread-Skin]

according to
Thomas Boswell - Donovan McNabb benching: Mike Shanahan wears two hats and should add a third - dunce cap

McNabbs numbers : He's passed for 3,377 yards, seventh best in the NFL, and was on pace for his first 4,000-yard season. Also, under a constant battering, he's turned the ball over 16 times, 15 on interceptions but only one on a fumble.....Shanahan is wrong in thinking McNabb is unworthy to run his offense and execute his son's plays.

I have long wanted a 4000 yd passer here. That means we are moving the ball even late in games and scoring points. This article shares shares how I am feeling that OL/RB depletion really had the team in a bind and I didnt realize just how big a rift Kyle/McNabb were dealing with. McNabb never really got a chance. We let go of DThomas, we keep Galloway. Coach has cleaned house like in historic and pariah like fashion.

Why couldn't we head into the offseason with a QB and build up the OL/get defense players??? I am amazed that every facet of our team is in turmoil b/c despite having Banks we have no LS, K ,or P so even Danny Smiths special teams suffers .All the AH drama and Haslett failures/f*ups are easier to accept in the end.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The receiving corps is not the problem here. If McNabb was the QB we thought he was we would easily be putting up more then 20 points a game. The receivers aren't the ones that throwing behind themselves or throwing balls into the dirt nor are they throwing into traffic at inopportune times. They also aren't overthrowing or under throwing themselves on potential big plays.

Face it we're not going to have an offensive line made up of 5 first and second round picks nor are we going to be able to compliment them with two 1,000 yard receivers and a pro bowl tight end. Moss, Armstrong, Cooley, Davis is a more then suitable receiving corps for a pro bowl QB. Certainly better than most of the groups McNabb played with during his pro bowl years in Philly.

Who is Tom Brady's best receiver? Dieon Branch? What about Peyton Manning outside of Reggie Wayne these days? Piere Garcon? And by the way where's Peytons offensive line made up of first and second round picks?

Big Ben is making the Steelers offense go with Mike Wallace as the main option. His other two options an injury prone Heath Miller (who's not as good as Cooley) and an aging Hines Ward. His offensive line is made up of a 1st round rookie, a 2nd round pick (Flozell Adams), a 5th round pick, a 6th round pick, and a 24 year old undrafted free agent.

Who's Matt Cassel throwing to after Dwayne Bowe? Tony Moeaki? By the way Cassel is currently being protected by three guys who were undrafted free agents (ages 33, 37, and 29), a fifth round pick and one first round pick (a converted guard playing LT).

Matt Ryan only has Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez (not as good as Cooley these days) to throw to. Matt Jenkins is decent but even if he had played in all 16 games he would still have less yards then our own Anthony Armstrong. His line, an injury prone first round LT, a 2nd round pick, 2 undrafted free agents, and a 7th round pick.

Quality along the offensive line (in fact I hope they find a guy that fits their system in the second round during this years upcoming draft) and depth in the receiving corps is important but if a QB is good you're going to see it.

I agree with you even as far as to mention Phillip Rivers has had more unknown wr line up on Sunday due to injuires to Malcom Floyd, Pat Crayton, and the susp. of Vincent Jackson and they still put up points. Gates has been out as of late. Remember we did have Norv Turner as a HC when Synder took over but he fired him towards the end of the season. That was the last time our Redskin could put up 24-27 points a game.