Should Andy Reid Step Down?

SmootSmack · 11-02-2007, 01:33 PM

True, they're not children now. But apparently this has been going on in the case of at least one child since he was 14 years old. And like I said earlier, I think the real focus needs to be on the fact that he has three other children. This is not to say they're going to follow the same path as their older brothers but does Reid have a responsibility to do any more than he already is doing to prevent them from doing so?

dmek25 · 11-02-2007, 01:45 PM

i have a 20 year old daughter that has some issues. i really feel for Reid. but what would stepping down now accomplish? the kids are going to jail. the only thing Reid HAS to do it get on the same page with his wife, so they are thinking the same things for when his sons get out of prison. Reid going to work could be good for him, to get his mind off his personal life

SmootSmack · 11-02-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i have a 20 year old daughter that has some issues. i really feel for Reid. but what would stepping down now accomplish? the kids are going to jail. the only thing Reid HAS to do it get on the same page with his wife, so they are thinking the same things for when his sons get out of prison. Reid going to work could be good for him, to get his mind off his personal life

What about the rest of his kids? Should he step down to be there for them?

Cowell · 11-02-2007, 05:12 PM

I don't think it's mine or anyone outside of the Reid's place to say whether he should step down or not. It's pretty obvious both of his kids have issues but they are big boys, they should be able to make the right choices on their own. I don't think the league should interfere either. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the NFL and I hope that the Reid family can get this all worked out.

dmek25 · 11-02-2007, 02:03 PM

that changes the whole thing. i didn't realize he had more kids. yes, then its time for him to step down, and try to keep his younger ones from making the same mistakes

SmootSmack · 11-02-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

that changes the whole thing. i didn't realize he had more kids. yes, then its time for him to step down, and try to keep his younger ones from making the same mistakes

Yeah, I should have been clearer from the start of this thread. The two kids going to jail aren't really why I would argue he should consider stepping down. It's the remaining three kids

12thMan · 11-02-2007, 03:46 PM

This is something that needs to be said: Just because your kids are acting up, doesn't make you a bad parent. I've seen it both ways. I've known kids from the hood, who had bad parents but they were model citizens. And I've seen kids from good homes getting into all types of shit.

Point being, let's no automatically assume that Reid has been entirely absent from their lives and he's been a bad father to them. These are grown ass men. I'm sure he's hurting over this, no doubt. But stepping down at this point may not do a damn thing to change these kids.

70Chip · 11-02-2007, 04:25 PM

I think he should "step down" from being an enabler to his adult children. They are no longer his responsibility. Drug addicts are manipulators extraordinaire and if he quits coaching and devotes all his time to them and making up for lost childhood, blah, blah, blah, it will only serve to prevent them from dealing with their serious problems which are their's and no one else's . If they've got an issue, give them a tissue:

chrisl4064 · 11-02-2007, 04:35 PM

i think andy reid needs to step onto a treadmill

djnemo65 · 11-02-2007, 05:47 PM

I think it's absurd to think that there is any circumstantial similarity between letting your ex-con thug cousins bunk up rent free in a house you own - doing god knows what - and your kids getting into legal trouble on their own. If Reid is forced to step down it should be because his team stinks.

Skins fan 44 · 11-02-2007, 06:15 PM

He has ignored the problem up until this summer why should he step down now? He cant not say that he did not know that his kids were doing bad things before they got arrested. If he did not know he needs to know to become a better parent and be more involved in his kids life. And he can't not use the excuse of I was too busy to know what is going on due to my schedule. Family comes way before football. I know they are grown up and all and are responsible for there own actions but for him to not have a clue what they are doing is beyond belief.

offiss · 11-02-2007, 06:39 PM

You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.

dmek25 · 11-02-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.

offiss, do you have kids? the reason i ask is that I'm a firm believer of the thought that you can be the best parent in the world, and you kids can still end up in trouble. to me, this statement is ridiculous

offiss · 11-03-2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

offiss, do you have kids? the reason i ask is that I'm a firm believer of the thought that you can be the best parent in the world, and you kids can still end up in trouble. to me, this statement is ridiculous

I read a few of your posts on this subject dmek and can see your all over the place, first Reid should go to work, then he should resign, then being the best parent in the world has nothing to do with kids who go astray, so please make up your mind, if he's the best parent in the world right now, how would quiting his job serve any purpose as to making him even better than he already is? Or these kids are inherently bad and nothing he can do will stop them? Either argument I can't see why he would need to quit his job, he either is a lousy parent and quiting isn't going to make him better it will just keep him around the house more not knowing how to teach and discipline his kids, or he can quit and continue to be the best parent and be around the house more only to continue to watch these kids who as you have stated may be inherently bad continue to get into trouble. Either way quiting your job is NOT the solution.

And to answer you first question, no I do not have children.

jgalecpa · 11-02-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.

The thing is, after a point, your kids are going to do what they are going to do. Some kids listen and other kids don't. Turns out you can't actuallty control them, or anyone else but yourself.

People deal with things different ways. Maybe the best way for Coach to do it is to Coach.

That is his choice, and his decision. We have no idea what went on in that house.

Like my daughter says: "Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then you are a mile away and they have no shoes."

My 1.5 cents.

11-02-2007, 01:33 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? True, they're not children now. But apparently this has been going on in the case of at least one child since he was 14 years old. And like I said earlier, I think the real focus needs to be on the fact that he has three other children. This is not to say they're going to follow the same path as their older brothers but does Reid have a responsibility to do any more than he already is doing to prevent them from doing so? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-02-2007, 01:45 PM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? i have a 20 year old daughter that has some issues. i really feel for Reid. but what would stepping down now accomplish? the kids are going to jail. the only thing Reid HAS to do it get on the same page with his wife, so they are thinking the same things for when his sons get out of prison. Reid going to work could be good for him, to get his mind off his personal life __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-02-2007, 05:12 PM	#4
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? I don't think it's mine or anyone outside of the Reid's place to say whether he should step down or not. It's pretty obvious both of his kids have issues but they are big boys, they should be able to make the right choices on their own. I don't think the league should interfere either. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the NFL and I hope that the Reid family can get this all worked out.

11-02-2007, 02:03 PM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? that changes the whole thing. i didn't realize he had more kids. yes, then its time for him to step down, and try to keep his younger ones from making the same mistakes __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-02-2007, 03:46 PM	#7
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? This is something that needs to be said: Just because your kids are acting up, doesn't make you a bad parent. I've seen it both ways. I've known kids from the hood, who had bad parents but they were model citizens. And I've seen kids from good homes getting into all types of shit. Point being, let's no automatically assume that Reid has been entirely absent from their lives and he's been a bad father to them. These are grown ass men. I'm sure he's hurting over this, no doubt. But stepping down at this point may not do a damn thing to change these kids.

11-02-2007, 04:25 PM	#8
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? I think he should "step down" from being an enabler to his adult children. They are no longer his responsibility. Drug addicts are manipulators extraordinaire and if he quits coaching and devotes all his time to them and making up for lost childhood, blah, blah, blah, it will only serve to prevent them from dealing with their serious problems which are their's and no one else's . If they've got an issue, give them a tissue: __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-02-2007, 04:35 PM	#9
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 786	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? i think andy reid needs to step onto a treadmill

11-02-2007, 05:47 PM	#10
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? I think it's absurd to think that there is any circumstantial similarity between letting your ex-con thug cousins bunk up rent free in a house you own - doing god knows what - and your kids getting into legal trouble on their own. If Reid is forced to step down it should be because his team stinks.

11-02-2007, 06:15 PM	#11
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? He has ignored the problem up until this summer why should he step down now? He cant not say that he did not know that his kids were doing bad things before they got arrested. If he did not know he needs to know to become a better parent and be more involved in his kids life. And he can't not use the excuse of I was too busy to know what is going on due to my schedule. Family comes way before football. I know they are grown up and all and are responsible for there own actions but for him to not have a clue what they are doing is beyond belief.

11-02-2007, 06:39 PM	#12
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: Should Andy Reid Step Down? You either control your kids or you don't, sounds more like to me that Reid doesn't have the ability to teach his kids right from wrong, or insist upon it, so I don't know how quiting his job would help the matter, sounds like he needs money more than ever if he plans to help with the legal bills and so forth. Men all over the world go to work and stay away from their families and still manage to raise their children properly, one has nothing to do with the other. Reid needs to look himself in the mirror and figure out what he's doing wrong, because I believe I heard he has 3 more children he doesn't need them following their brothers down the same path.

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