Collin's Good Backup nothing more

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Collins knows the offense well and caught lightning in a bottle as far as the team's motivation with Taylor's passing. I think he did a fantastic job, and he has good chemistry with the team. I think Jason will be the unquestioned starter going into next season, but it's good to know we have a 1A-1B QB situation.

I don't think we have to worry about Todd signing with another team. He only played 4 good games and he'll be 37 next season. I also don't think he'll start another game for us unless Campbell gets hurt again.

I am just not convinced JC is the answer at QB in this system. He takes way too long to make decisions and his delivery is not quick. He might work out but right now I'm not sure. Collins is 37 but he has no miles on him. I can easily see Collins having 3 or 4 more good years because he has not been banged up.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by irish

I am just not convinced JC is the answer at QB in this system. He takes way too long to make decisions and his delivery is not quick. He might work out but right now I'm not sure. Collins is 37 but he has no miles on him. I can easily see Collins having 3 or 4 more good years because he has not been banged up.

Posts like this were the norm... Now because I am saying the same about Collins... I am just drunk... or knee jerked?? No way.... before the game I knew his mobility would be a liability ...and it was ...and always will be.... plus the int to Moss ...he had no business attempting to throw a pass that long with his arm strength...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Posts like this were the norm... Now because I am saying the same about Collins... I am just drunk... or knee jerked?? No way.... before the game I knew his mobility would be a liability ...and it was ...and always will be.... plus the int to Moss ...he had no business attempting to throw a pass that long with his arm strength...

Posts like that were the norm? Prove it

Furthermore, irish is presenting his opinion backed up by his own observations. Whether you agree with them or not (I don't) he is not vilifying JC

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Posts like this were the norm... Now because I am saying the same about Collins... I am just drunk... or knee jerked?? No way.... before the game I knew his mobility would be a liability ...and it was ...and always will be.... plus the int to Moss ...he had no business attempting to throw a pass that long with his arm strength...

That wasn't TC's fault at all! Moss admitted he didn't even know where the ball was, which is why he stopped on the route. You could see when he stopped he turned around and looked up trying to find where the ball was. Granted Moss was covered by Trufant, but if Moss hadn't lost track of the ball, he would have had a 50/50 chance of catching it.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Posts like this were the norm... Now because I am saying the same about Collins... I am just drunk... or knee jerked?? No way.... before the game I knew his mobility would be a liability ...and it was ...and always will be.... plus the int to Moss ...he had no business attempting to throw a pass that long with his arm strength...

Oh please, that's pure BS. With that logic, he should've never thrown those passes to Moss (that were completed) in those last four games we won. This is a perfect example of someone who doesn't understand football. First of all, Collins shouldn't have thrown that pass, because the defender didn't bite on Moss's double move...NOT because Collins didn't have the arm to get it to Moss. Instead, Collins threw the pass (to the spot where Moss would've been open at if the defender had bit on the move,) and Moss did nothing to prevent the defender from catching the ball.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Posts like this were the norm... Now because I am saying the same about Collins... I am just drunk... or knee jerked?? No way.... before the game I knew his mobility would be a liability ...and it was ...and always will be.... plus the int to Moss ...he had no business attempting to throw a pass that long with his arm strength...

Unless all you read is posts from irish that view was far from the norm around here.

I'd say the norm was most understood that Collins was the QB for right now and he was doing a great job, but JC is still the future and he would return to the starting role in 2008.

[MTK]

Campbell was never vilified, this thread is getting dumber by the minute.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Campbell was never vilified, this thread is getting dumber by the minute.

But you didnt think this one was dumb?
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...campbell+ready

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56

But you didnt think this one was dumb?
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...campbell+ready

That thread is neither dumb nor does it vilify Jason Campbell in anyway. The OP basically said Campbell is going to be a great QB for this team (something 90% of the fans agree with,) but Collins knew the system better than Campbell (which is fact considering he was in KC with Saunders.)

That in no way implies that people turned their backs on Campbell or implied Collins is bound for Canton. It just simply implied Collins was the right choice for right now. Right now is over. Next season will have Campbell back in the driver's seat.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by railcon56

But you didnt think this one was dumb?
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...campbell+ready

No actually I thought it was a legit question to ask and it was brought up and discussed in an intelligent manner.

You're really oversensitive if you think that thread was "vilifying" JC.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Todd proved there was a reason why he is a career backup.... He has terribly weak arm .... and is the slowest "Turtle Like QB " I have ever seen.... I even saw him throw a few temper tantrums Sunday.... He threw bad passes.... And his lack of mobility made him an easy Target.....Funny how 3 good Games was enough to have many people on this board turn on Campbell... But The Seahawks played Collin's like you should play a slow weak armed QB.... NO WAY HE WILL BE BACK... That was obvious Sunday.... Oh and he waited till the most important game of the year To have turnovers....

Lay off the booze and the knee jerk reactions. Nobody has turned on Campbell except for your imagination.

[DynamiteRave]

In fact I think the word vilified needs to be completely thrown out of whatever his (railcon's) argument is because it's being terribly misused.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by railcon56

Todd proved there was a reason why he is a career backup.... He has terribly weak arm .... and is the slowest "Turtle Like QB " I have ever seen.... I even saw him throw a few temper tantrums Sunday.... He threw bad passes.... And his lack of mobility made him an easy Target.....Funny how 3 good Games was enough to have many people on this board turn on Campbell... But The Seahawks played Collin's like you should play a slow weak armed QB.... NO WAY HE WILL BE BACK... That was obvious Sunday.... Oh and he waited till the most important game of the year To have turnovers....

Way to go dig up your crappy Brunell arguments...and then apply them to Todd Collins.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Way to go dig up your crappy Brunell arguments...and then apply them to Todd Collins.

I wanted Brunell to play Sunday...I though he would have been better.... considering his off season surgery...But it was basically the same situation...

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Way to go dig up your crappy Brunell arguments...and then apply them to Todd Collins.

But it was differnt... Todd should have been the starter (considering the injury)....Not the same argument.... I am arguing he is a backup...not the starter... people dont agree...oh well...