Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by offfiss

We got lucky both years we made the playoffs

Which is why all of the players, the media and opposing teams all credited Gibbs this past year for holding the team together after ST died.

Which is why we went TO New York and TO Minnesota and spanked them both with the playoffs on the line.

I'm done with you. You have never, in the time I've debated you, said anything more than drivel backed by irrational assertions based firmly in bias and prejudice (i.e. opinion for and against things w/out factual basis).

You have always been obtuse, you are obtuse, and you will always be obtuse.

[offfiss]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Which is why all of the players, the media and opposing teams all credited Gibbs this past year for holding the team together after ST died.

Which is why we went TO New York and TO Minnesota and spanked them both with the playoffs on the line.

I'm done with you. You have never, in the time I've debated you, said anything more than drivel backed by irrational assertions based firmly in bias and prejudice (i.e. opinion for and against things w/out factual basis).

You have always been obtuse, you are obtuse, and you will always be obtuse.

If Gibbs didn't go conservative in the 2nd half against the Giants in our first game against them and if Moss didn't fumble against the Pakcers and if Gibbs didn't call a time out against Buffallo then that's three wins we would have had and wouldnt need to win those games down the stretch.

Your problem is your afraid to think for yourself. Instead you just agree with the popular thought. Not me. I actually watch the games and pay attention.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by offfiss

We got lucky both years we made the playoffs

ok, so Gibbs is lucky & the ole ball coach, Marty, Norv, & Pettibon simply weren't as lucky. Then give me the man w/the good luck anyday!

There was no luck involved in how he managed the team & got it to this point. He had his bad moves, but the team is much better off now than when he took over.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offfiss

We're clearly seeing now that Joe Gibbs held us back the last four years. We're being smart in the offseason finally and its no coinsidence that it's happening with Gibbs gone. Joe Gibbs is just an average coach without Bobby Beathard.

Bobby is a hell of a play caller!

[freddyg12]

To hopefully bring this thread back to the subject of its title; let's hope that the Danny is truly patient w/the new order. Zorn can't be expected to do too much even if he inherits a playoff team.

We were only 9-7 and as JLC pointed out, the loss of ST & injuries to Rocky & Carlos could impact the D more this season from purely a football standpoint than it did at the end of last year when emotions were high.

Give Zorn & Vinny a chance to build. Don't overreact if the team has a tough year.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

To hopefully bring this thread back to the subject of its title;

nice try. you get rep from me for this.

Ill give it a try too...

TO HOPEFULLY BRING THIS THREAD BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF ITS TITLE, I love this approach. It is really hard to build teams through the draft given the free agency and all. Cerrato seams to be a little more patient than Danny, and I still feel the need to mention that Gibbs in that front office has alot to do with it. When all the the other teams were talking numbers with free agents, where were we? we were evaluating talent in the draft. I have a good feeling about the years to come with this new approach and a youngish coach. I just hope we give him an opportunity if he stumbles out of the gate.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

nice try. you get rep from me for this.

Ill give it a try too...

TO HOPEFULLY BRING THIS THREAD BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF ITS TITLE, I love this approach. It is really hard to build teams through the draft given the free agency and all. Cerrato seams to be a little more patient than Danny, and I still feel the need to mention that Gibbs in that front office has alot to do with it. When all the the other teams were talking numbers with free agents, where were we? we were evaluating talent in the draft. I have a good feeling about the years to come with this new approach and a youngish coach. I just hope we give him an opportunity if he stumbles out of the gate.

Thanks!

[KLHJ2]

That is not the same offiss. He is either unorigional, an imposter, or he forgot his password.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by angryssg

That is not the same offiss. He is either unorigional, an imposter, or he forgot his password.

Maybe it's Irish in deepcover?

[offfiss]

Originally Posted by angryssg

That is not the same offiss. He is either unorigional, an imposter, or he forgot his password.

Why don't you ask Matty or Smooty why I suddenly couldn't log on here. I don't know. I'm not a computer expert, but I know football and I'm back

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offfiss

Why don't you ask Matty or Smooty why I suddenly couldn't log on here. I don't know. I'm not a computer expert, but I know football and I'm back

Don't start that shit with us again. You did this the last time you couldn't log on. I think it was because of your cookies or cache or something like that. I'm no computer expert either but don't go publicly accusing the mods of things that you know aren't true.

[FRPLG]

Good catch on that angryssg.

[JoeRedskin]

You EXPECT to win SB's? Did it occur to you that the last SB Joe Gibbs won, he did it without Bobby "yes I drafted Ryan Leaf" Beathard?

We have had this debate before and I won't be dragged into it again. Gibbs & Beathard made a great team and contributed in their own way to the SB's. To denigrate Gibbs accomplishments b/c he had a great talent evaluator is BS and you should know better.

[offfiss]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You EXPECT to win SB's? Did it occur to you that the last SB Joe Gibbs won, he did it without Bobby "yes I drafted Ryan Leaf" Beathard?

We have had this debate before and I won't be dragged into it again. Gibbs & Beathard made a great team and contributed in their own way to the SB's. To denigrate Gibbs accomplishments b/c he had a great talent evaluator is BS and you should know better.

I won't be dragged into it either. Facts are facts, Joe Gibbs has never won a Super Bowl without a GM and he's a lowsy talent evaluator. Or did you forget about Brandon Lloyd already?

Go talk to your Desmond Howard bobble head

[MTK]

The football man is back!!



Not for long though.