Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!

[chrisl13]

If we keep Jason Taylor, him and Andre Carter are gonna have a helluva season with teams double teaming big Al.

TODAY IS A GREAT DAY!

[RedskinPete]

Our greatest DT has been Dave Butz[75-88] can AH be that good? I remember Butz playing in the day and he tock on two blockers ever play and still was a beast. Love to see AH be that kind of player inside!

[MTK]

I think it's safe to say right now AH is more dominant than Butz ever was.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's safe to say right now AH is more dominant than Butz ever was.

But Butz was a high motor guy and you knew what you were getting on every play and was rarely injured. But to your point, when motivated, AH is more talented/dominant.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it's safe to say right now AH is more dominant than Butz ever was.

please do no mention Butz in the same sentence as Fat Albert

[dmek25]

man, this move scares the hell out of me. he had better be the real deal

[Dblock804]

Originally Posted by dmek25

man, this move scares the hell out of me. he had better be the real deal

Think how Romo must feel.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dblock804

Think how Romo must feel.

And McNabb and Eli too.

I love the signing because, for a few years we'll all seen and complained how the D-Line is our biggest hole, especially the DTs. We can no longer say it is a weakness.

If our O-line can stay healthy or we upgrade it with the draft, we're a rock solid team everywhere except kicker/punter...and hopefully our defense can negate the punting situation and the offense can score TDs instead of relying on Suisham.

We are a better team now than last year already.

I hope we can get Dockery somehow now.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Buster

And McNabb and Eli too.

I love the signing because, for a few years we'll all seen and complained how the D-Line is our biggest hole, especially the DTs. We can no longer say it is a weakness.

If our O-line can stay healthy or we upgrade it with the draft, we're a rock solid team everywhere except kicker/punter...and hopefully our defense can negate the punting situation and the offense can score TDs instead of relying on Suisham.

We are a better team now than last year already.

I hope we can get Dockery somehow now.

Absolutely. No doubt about it.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Buster

And McNabb and Eli too.

I love the signing because, for a few years we'll all seen and complained how the D-Line is our biggest hole, especially the DTs. We can no longer say it is a weakness.

If our O-line can stay healthy or we upgrade it with the draft, we're a rock solid team everywhere except kicker/punter...and hopefully our defense can negate the punting situation and the offense can score TDs instead of relying on Suisham.

We are a better team now than last year already.

I hope we can get Dockery somehow now.

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.

Fair point, but free agent DTs Dave Butz, Tim Johnson, and Cornelius Griffin did pretty well for us when we signed them

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.

Wikinson had two good years with us, and put up some really good numbers in his first year. His numbers were not the same the next two and had a bad final year with us.

Year Tkls/Solo/Sacks/FF
1998 44/38/7.5/0
1999 32/23/8.0/1
2000 21/16/3.5/0
2001 25/19/4/0
2002 16/12/0/0

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.

We signed Stubblefield at the end of his career, much like Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders and half our roster in that "era" I needed a refresher on Wilkinson's production so I checked out his stats. He had 8.0 and 7.5 sacks in his first two years with us, actually up from his previous career average. Then he fell off to 3.5 and 4, but he did have 23 sacks in 4 years and even scored a TD for us. He was never brought in with the expectation of being the top defensive lineman in the game like Haynesworth, neither was the aging Stubblefield even though he was paid nicely from Snyder.

Haynesworth is still young and can have many productive years with us. Also, we've watched Snyder actually learn and become a smarter signer of players over the years. He actually addresses needs now rather than just paying for the best free agents he can get and trying to out-talent other teams. He's a much more competent owner than early in his career, I believe Joe Gibbs taught him a lot.

I trust him now. Back in the "Stubblefield" days, he was a reckless check writer. Now, the Redskins actually have a vision for the future instead of "just win now".

[JWDundees]

I would have rather grabbed Canty...re-signed Hall...then get Dockery. From a locker room standpoint...is London Fletcher still going to be able to be a leader...or are Hall and AH going to be like F off old man we get paid more. Same thing with Chris Samuels and all those other guys that restructured. They broke their you know whats for this franchise...took pay cuts...then watch two punks...(and they are punks lets not beat around the bush here) get paid more than they have ever seen. I thought we were on the right path last year by building through the draft and grabbing small pieces in FA to enhance the team. Here we go again.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JWDundees

I would have rather grabbed Canty...re-signed Hall...then get Dockery. From a locker room standpoint...is London Fletcher still going to be able to be a leader...or are Hall and AH going to be like F off old man we get paid more. Same thing with Chris Samuels and all those other guys that restructured. They broke their you know whats for this franchise...took pay cuts...then watch two punks...(and they are punks lets not beat around the bush here) get paid more than they have ever seen. I thought we were on the right path last year by building through the draft and grabbing small pieces in FA to enhance the team. Here we go again.

Last off-season we were in a situation where we unexpectedly had to search for a new coach, none of the free agents really appealed to us, and we had a heavy dosage of draft picks. This year, unless we are able to pull off trades (anyone else hearing that Springs is going to Houston for the Texans' 4th rounder they just from Minnesota? Got a weak source on that one) we have to look at free agency.