Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)

[SkinzWin]

Stick a fork in him. Im surprised about Bartel though. My impression from what people had said so far about him was that he was doing well. I thought he had a shot to nail the 3rd QB spot.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Stick a fork in him. Im surprised about Bartel though. My impression from what people had said so far about him was that he was doing well. I thought he had a shot to nail the 3rd QB spot.

Nothing's set in stone yet on the 3rd QB position, if it even will exist

[GTripp0012]

John Beck's 2007 numbers were really, really terrible in any number of ways, but at least his interception rate was respectable.

[Lotus]

Not sure that I get this move but it is not like we gave up the farm. Dutch was a long shot to be any better than practice squad.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Not sure that I get this move but it is not like we gave up the farm. Dutch was a long shot to be any better than practice squad.

Yeah but so is Beck as far as I am concerned...

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Not sure that I get this move but it is not like we gave up the farm. Dutch was a long shot to be any better than practice squad.

Worse than that. He didn't make it past final cuts for the Las Vegas Locomotives in the UFL and then came to our practice squad in midseason. lolololol

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

John Beck's 2007 numbers were really, really terrible in any number of ways, but at least his interception rate was respectable.

How is his arm strength? It seems like the problem with Rex, and Colt atleast was their arm strength and deep ball throws.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How is his arm strength? It seems like the problem with Rex, and Colt atleast was their arm strength and deep ball throws.

Middling. He was a spread quarterback at BYU, and the Dolphins didn't run a downfield offense when they drafted him.

It's not a limitation or anything, but arm strength rarely is.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

John Beck's 2007 numbers were really, really terrible in any number of ways, but at least his interception rate was respectable.

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the trade. We trade a player that probably wasn't going to make the team for another whose situation would appear to be simular at best. Is the plan for him the PS?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the trade. We trade a player that probably wasn't going to make the team for another whose situation would appear to be simular at best. Is the plan for him the PS?

I'm thinking, if a guy isn't worthy of a roster spot they wanted to get him out and get another guy in, because why waste time? They don't want Colt -- probably don't want Beck either -- but they've gotta find out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind the trade. We trade a player that probably wasn't going to make the team for another whose situation would appear to be simular at best. Is the plan for him the PS?

I think he has too much accrued time to land on an NFL practice squad.

Beck has a greater than zero chance of being the no. 2 QB this year, which I believe is the rational behind the trade. I'll bet trade talks started between the Ravens and the Redskins on the topic of their CB depth, and that we tried to get a draft pick out of them, but couldn't. Doug Dutch wasn't going to make our team, and Beck wasn't going to make theirs (unless Troy Smith was traded), so the ability to look at John Beck in the preseason seems like a no-brainer.

In all likelyhood, he's going to get released before the season. He'd have to beat out Grossman for a roster spot, and there's enough evidence out there to think that Rex is just better. But with this trade, Shanahan can make the decision for himself.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think he has too much accrued time to land on an NFL practice squad.

Beck has a greater than zero chance of being the no. 2 QB this year, which I believe is the rational behind the trade. I'll bet trade talks started between the Ravens and the Redskins on the topic of their CB depth, and that we tried to get a draft pick out of them, but couldn't. Doug Dutch wasn't going to make our team, and Beck wasn't going to make theirs (unless Troy Smith was traded), so the ability to look at John Beck in the preseason seems like a no-brainer.

In all likelyhood, he's going to get released before the season. He'd have to beat out Grossman for a roster spot, and there's enough evidence out there to think that Rex is just better. But with this trade, Shanahan can make the decision for himself.

Colt was to some extent a fan favorite. With Grossman entrenched as the #2 QB Shanahan won't have to worry about the fans calling for Colt in the event Grossman has to play and does not do well. Colt threw his worst passes of the summer with Shanahan watching closely.

The Ravens desperately need help in their secondary, Dutch is a far cry from being any form of an answer. Fred Smoot is still out there, maybe they should ring him up.

[SirClintonPortis]

John Beck Scouting Report - 2007 NFL Draft Prospect

2007 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
John Beck, QB, BYU
John Beck looks to be a top 10 QB, perhaps going as early as the third round, but more realistically probably fourth or even fifth round. His age (at 25) is a concern, as well as being a product of the BYU system that typically plays weaker teams. His arm strength is average, but his strengths include his accuracy and great decision-making ability, thus avoiding turnovers. He also has a pretty quick release and a good presence in the pocket. His height is average for a QB, but is shorter than the premier QBs in this year's draft (Quinn is 6'4 and Russell is 6'6).
Last Updated Jan-03-2007 by Dave Thompson

John Beck Scouting Report

B8 - John Beck, Brigham Young Official Bio
Height: 6-2
Weight: 215
40 yard dash: 4.77
Grade: 55
Strengths:
John Beck has a quick release and is efficient in a short passing attack. Beck has adequate arm strength and is a good character person.
Weaknesses:
Beck has an awkward release, including a low release point at times. He comes from a shotgun based spread passing offense in college and will be forced to adapt to making more vertical NFL throws. He is older than the typical prospect at age 25.
Overall:
Beck has been effective at BYU, but will have a hard time being anything more then a backup at the next level. He is not the athlete many teams are seeking at quarterback and his age is a concern. He is good at making quick decisions and has acceptable arm strength.

This sounds strangely similar to Colt's scouting reports/hype.

[SkinzWin]

Too bad we didn't trade Dutch for Anquan Boldin...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ironically, playing on Colt's ipod right now...

"Loser"...by Beck
"Lost Cause"...by Beck
"Nobody's Fault but my Own"...by Beck

lol well done