Chad Johnson Wants Out of Cincy

[prinzeofmoval]

we can use him....imagine moss and him together..they'll torch any team

[sancho2613]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

we can use him....imagine moss and him together..they'll torch any team

You would think the same thing about him and T.J. with a pretty good QB but they didn't even make it to the playoffs. They're defense wasn't a big help but they had games were they had trouble just scoring 10-13 points

[NinjaLink]

I doubt the Redskins will pick him up. Dan Snyder doesn't pick up idiots like Chad Johnson that brings drama to the locker room and acts like a moron on the field. No thanks.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by NinjaLink

I doubt the Redskins will pick him up. Dan Snyder doesn't pick up idiots like Chad Johnson that brings drama to the locker room and acts like a moron on the field. No thanks.

If maintain over 1000 yards every season is acting like a moron we need more morons on this team.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NinjaLink

I doubt the Redskins will pick him up. Dan Snyder doesn't pick up idiots like Chad Johnson that brings drama to the locker room and acts like a moron on the field. No thanks.

explain how chad is an idiot and brings drama.

[tatrave]

I would love to have Chad on the Redskins. Think of it...Chad running down the field, even in covered he still has alost a foot on every other defender in the NFL, and Jason sees him, TD Redskins. We NEED a receiver Jason can consistently throw too down the feild. It will give Jason the much needed confidence he needs and open up the running game because the opponents safeties are forced to cover down the feild. I say go after him.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

explain how chad is an idiot and brings drama.

This is the perception that caused Johnson to shun the Cincy media this season. He's a character, and seems generally likable, but you get some shots of him and Carson Palmer going at it on the sidelines, or him talking about his next touchdown celebration, and he is viewed as a locker room cancer. Let's be clear, Chad isn't Pac Man Jones, he's never destroyed a locker room or alienated a QB like T.O. or Randy Moss, he's never been sent packing a la Keyshawn in Tampa. He's outspoken, that's what he is, that is his game. I wouldn't have a problem with him in D.C. if there weren't the issues of draft pick and monetary compensation.

The bigger issue it seems to me, and I bring this up anecdotally without having examined all the statistics or pouring over game tape, is that Johnson is more of a deep threat who is sporadic in his production (as deep threats tend to be) and who is not a guy who consistently moves the chains and he doesn't (I don't think, could be wrong here) score a lot of touchdowns in the red zone. Certainly he is a bit bigger than Santana, but is his game really all that different? Wouldn't the Redskins be better served by someone like (and again you'd have to think about the issues of compensation) Roy Williams or Larry Fitzgerald if either came available?

As someone said above, if Hue Jackson does end up as OC then I could see the possibility of Johnson landing in D.C., for good or ill, go up.

[SC Skins Fan]

Since I hadn't looked at the statistics prior to my last post, here are some. They contradict some, but maybe not all, of what I said previously.

Chad Johnson - 6-1, 192 (i.e. not a foot taller than DB's as mentioned above) (29 years old)

Total - 93 catches, 1,440 yds, 8 tds

Opp 19-1 - 8 catches, 50 yds, 5 tds
Opp 49-20 - 29, 391, 2
Own 1-20 - 10, 178, 0
Own 20-49 - 46, 821, 1

1st down catches - 74/93 - 79.6% (so he does more the chains)

Compared to T.J. Houshmandzadeh, 6-1, 199

Total - 112 catches, 1,143 yds, 12 tds

Opp 19-1 - 16, 115, 8
Opp 49-20 - 38, 429, 4
Opp 1-20 - 8, 81, 0
Opp 20-49 - 50, 518, 0

1st down catches - 70/112 - 62.5%

Compared to Roy Williams, 6-3, 211 (26 years old)

Total - 64 catches, 838 yds, 5 tds

Opp 19-1 - 7, 49, 4
Opp 49-20 - 13, 152, 0
Opp 1-20 - 8, 152, 1 (almost all on that one play against Philly)
Opp 20-49 - 36, 485, 0

1st down catches - 34/64 - 53.1%

Compared to Santana Moss, 5-10, 200 (28 years old)

Total - 61 catches, 808 yds, 3 tds

Opp 19-1 - 3, 11, 1 (OUCH!)
Opp 49-20 - 26, 360, 3 (note to NFL.com, those TDs don't add up right)
Opp 1-20 - 10, 124, 0
Opp 20-49 - 28, 381, 0

1st down catches - 47/61 - 77.0%

Compared to Chris Cooley

Total - 66 catches, 781 yds, 8 tds

Opp 19-1 - 9, 106, 6
Opp 49-20 - 28, 368, 2
Opp 1-20 - 5, 54, 0
Opp 20-49 - 29, 304, 0

1st down catches - 37/66 - 56%

So it turns out Chad Johnson is pretty good. Would be a matter of compensation, which worries me since the Redskins have yet to end not overpay in a trade since Snyder has owned the team. We shall see.

[theJBexperience]

You think the cancer in the locker room cliche would be put to rest by now. We've seen two cancers take their team to the next level: TO & Randy Moss. There's no trouble in the locker room now because they're winning. A successful season quiets any malcontent.

Any competitive person that has performed at the level of a Chad Johnson, on and off the field, year in and year out, and only has a 1st round playoff loss to show for it would be understandably upset. Cincy has not brought in the personnel to win but instead been a revolving door for criminals and thugs. They inexplicably pass every down, short yardage or long. And rather than question the FO or the coach, the best player on the team is blamed because he celebrates the few quality plays of a poor team. I think this slamming of Chad Johnson buys Marvin Lewis another season or two, while he should be the one called out on the carpet, not Chad.

The Skins should definitely try to make a move for him. Yes, still give Mix a chance. Bur CJ is going to be the equivalent of what Reche Caldwell and Keenan McCardell were for us this season times ten. He'll move the chains and make the big catches. Also, he'll help spread out the secondary more than Reche and Keenan would. So, Santana and ARE would get open more deep. He'll definitely be a positive piece of the offense, and his acquisition would result in greater offensive production. I don't think we'd be limited to just Chris Cooley in the redzone with Chad on the team.

I say make the move if we can clear salary cap space.

[lespaul]

The Enquirer - Johnson airs grievances

You never know.

[NFLeurope]

I'm gonna go ahead and predict Moss never leaves New England. They would be retarded to let him get away. Yes he is a free agent...but if they cannot agree to a long term deal with him...Smart money says they slap the franchise tag on him...and then it takes two first round picks to sign him away. So...i would argue moss is not on the open market.

[BleedBurgundy]

If they "let" moss get away, they'll be fine. Just like they are every other damn year. Stallworth is a pretty good vertical threat too.

[WillH]

Does anyone know what other WR's might be Free Agents?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by WillH

Does anyone know what other WR's might be Free Agents?

Andre Davis, Bryant Johnson, Patrick Crayton, Jerry Porter, Bernard Berrian are among the top ones

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Andre Davis, Bryant Johnson, Patrick Crayton, Jerry Porter, Bernard Berrian are among the top ones

I thought Crayton just signed a big extension. Like two weeks ago?