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09-09-2010, 02:16 PM
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09-09-2010, 01:00 PM
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Sorry but I have zero pity for smokers having to smoke outside. The best thing that happened in NY was when they banned smoking in bars and restaurants.
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09-09-2010, 01:18 PM
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IT has been that way for a a little while here in MD, so refreshing honestly it is great.
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09-09-2010, 02:39 PM
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I'm not asking for anyones pitty I simply said I feel sorry for them. On a side note I understand the second hand smoke issue. But I feel that if I wanted to open up a bar with the understanding that it's for smokers but other may attend I should not be hindered by the state gov. telling my business can't have smokers ...inside. It's one thing to go to the bar which is set up for everyone and people having to put up with second hand smoke, but a business should be able to cater to smokers and with the knowledge that it caters to smokers not force them to smoke outside.
I hope I see the day that when smoking is finally banned, these groups turn their attention to alcohol. Alcohol kills also folks. A lot faster then smoking does. Between drunk drivers and pickled livers I can honestly see this being the next hurdle. But don't think your going to have the smokers simpathy when more of our rights start being eroded for the "better cause." Whats my answer for the issue? I don't know. when I was younger I suggested business having a designated smoking area. The smokers got it..... they got pushed outside into the weather, rain, snow, heat, or cold. Now looking for the cheaper insurance business are taking on no smoking on the property period. I guess this forces the smoker to decide if he wants to keep his job or not, especially if he does not want to quit smoking. But to tell business that they can't open a business catering to smokers to give them a place to eat, or a bar to hang out, or simply a lounge (these tobacco shops), is obserd. I'll gladly pay the higher insurances and open a bar for smokers..... but the gov. says no because of laws passed saying no smoking indoors period. |
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09-09-2010, 02:44 PM
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No one is going to feel sorry for smokers. They can eat shit and die and this is coming from a former 3.5 pack a week smoker.
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09-09-2010, 02:54 PM
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No I don't feel sorry for the young smokers. We are a more educated society. But our elderly should be treated better. 
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09-09-2010, 03:06 PM
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Don't get me wrong. I think smoking is horrid. I see what it's done to my mother. I'm not advocating smoking. All I'm saying is the gov is supposed to be a neutral body and instead they have sided with the non smokers and passed laws against smoking indoors and in some states smoking outside in public. I have the same issue with gun control and abortion. I hope the gov does not take sides with any one religious denomination cause this country was founded on freadom of religion. and before I get slammed for probably being a muslim simpathizer and thinking it's ok for the temple to be erected with 2 blocks of ground zero in NY... I'm not. I think although they should have the right, it's very distastefull on the muslim's part to want to erect a temple so close to the site. The next question is would it be ok if it was 4 blocks away? 8 blocks? How far away is ok? you know... since we are a country of religious freedom.
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09-09-2010, 03:52 PM
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Smoking is not a protected right by the Constitution, so the states or the people have a right to create a law that would ban or limit such actions as long as it does not violate its own laws. Gun ownership is protected by the Constitution so no state can pass a law banning such, legally. The debate about abortion is not if abortion should be legal, but about when life is created. Pro-Life = @ conception; Pro-Choice = @ birth. The point at which life is created and murder is commited is not clearly defined so the debate will continue making lawyers and lobbyists tons of cash for years to come. As long as the Muslim religous center is built within the confines of the law there is no reason to stop it. I am actually disgusted by so-called conservatives saying anything otherwise. I do think that the location is tasteless , but that does not mean much. |
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09-09-2010, 03:58 PM
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...back to mredskins' kid.
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09-09-2010, 04:04 PM
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LOL! For the record the reason the state bans smoking in a bar is becasue of the workers. If you are a non-smoking bartender why should you be forced to possible getting lung cancer. Everyone has the right to work in a safe environment, well at least on paper.
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09-09-2010, 04:12 PM
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09-09-2010, 04:19 PM
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No worries all good discussion.
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09-09-2010, 07:47 PM
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09-09-2010, 05:50 PM
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Religion is worse than smoking.
Smoking destroys the body, religion destroys the mind. Who said that?
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09-09-2010, 10:41 PM
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