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Old 01-26-2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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All I want to know is weather or not he's tough enough to stay in a game and play with a grade 2 MCL tear/sprain. Sure it's an injury that takes players out for around a month but thats only because those wussy liberal natzis done be makin the rules.
Agreed. If you can't play with a grade II MCL tear, you're an unwanted pussy.
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Kiper likes Newton to Redskins | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

I don't agree with all that Kiper says, but there you go
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:39 AM   #3
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

What's interesting about this years' draft is that it reminds me of the 2005 draft. I think Locker is a late first round pick. I think the skins are high on him, however I don't think we will spend our number 10 pick on him. What I think could happen is that we draft Von Miller at 10 and wait to see if Locker drops around 20 or so then we trade into the first round- give up our 2nd and a first from next year- and draft Locker. Similar to what we did with Campbell in 2005.
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What's interesting about this years' draft is that it reminds me of the 2005 draft. I think Locker is a late first round pick. I think the skins are high on him, however I don't think we will spend our number 10 pick on him. What I think could happen is that we draft Von Miller at 10 and wait to see if Locker drops around 20 or so then we trade into the first round- give up our 2nd and a first from next year- and draft Locker. Similar to what we did with Campbell in 2005.
My preference would be just to trade back in the first if the Shannys are hell bent on grabbing an average QB prospect...whether its locker, newton, gabbert, etc. I know its easier said than done. Miller would be a great pick at 10, but the more i here about him the more i hear he could be a top 5 pick. To give up a first next year with a better QB crop coming out next year, why wouldnt we just be patient? the more things change, the more they stay the same...
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:24 AM   #5
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My preference would be just to trade back in the first if the Shannys are hell bent on grabbing an average QB prospect...whether its locker, newton, gabbert, etc. I know its easier said than done. Miller would be a great pick at 10, but the more i here about him the more i hear he could be a top 5 pick. To give up a first next year with a better QB crop coming out next year, why wouldnt we just be patient? the more things change, the more they stay the same...
Yes. I would rather trade back and ADD picks than essentially spend multiple picks on one player and thus LOSE picks.

The trade out of the first round that we did a couple of years ago is the right idea...as long as we don't pick Devin Thomas again.
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What's interesting about this years' draft is that it reminds me of the 2005 draft. I think Locker is a late first round pick. I think the skins are high on him, however I don't think we will spend our number 10 pick on him. What I think could happen is that we draft Von Miller at 10 and wait to see if Locker drops around 20 or so then we trade into the first round- give up our 2nd and a first from next year- and draft Locker. Similar to what we did with Campbell in 2005.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:40 AM   #7
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Who will be looking for a QB?
Panthers? they are talking more about picking up a Vet in FA. But who knows...
Hurney: QB is Carolina Panthers' 'No. 1 need' - Carolina Panthers Message Board

Interesting, the 3rd poster mentions McNabbs agent was given permission to seek a trade then they say .... lets go get him. lol.

Bronco's?Most likely not their fans sound satisfied with Tebow.

Bills?A Team With an Elite QB Will Win the Super Bowl!! - Buffalobills.com Message Board

Ralph changes tune about QB - Buffalobills.com Message Board

Bengals?Maybe not the fans are for letting Dan LeFevour a shot. But their main site has Jake Locker on it as if they are scoping all the QB's.
Cincinnati Bengals

Cardinals?
Their message boards don't talk of it but personally I'd say they need a QB since what they had this last yr didn't do much.

Browns?
They seem happy with Colt McCoy.

49ers?
Harbaugh on the importance of an Elite QB - 49ers Message Board Community

Drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round is the best chance we have to win. - 49ers Message Board Community

Titans?
The good news they are talking about Vets...
Carson Palmer: Carson Palmer - goTitans.com
D.McNabb: Donovan McNabb - goTitans.com
Available QB's??? - goTitans.com

Dallas?
They are not talking QB, I presume they are keeping Romo, but the rumors at the end of the season I thought were they were looking to get rid of him or cut him.

I don't know why I look at all the teams ahead of us and think any or all could draft a QB. Some more then other have a bigger need for one.

It also sounds like most fans feel Locker and possibly Newton are top 1st round talent even though we keep hearing about Lockers stock falling.
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Dallas?
They are not talking QB, I presume they are keeping Romo, but the rumors at the end of the season I thought were they were looking to get rid of him or cut him.
Pass the cheeb my man; and while some teams have legitimate QB needs, forum chatter is hardly a front office reach out.
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Romo isn't going anywhere.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:50 AM   #10
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Dallas could play a pivotal role in this draft. JJ has taken the Tuna's lead & likes to trade out of the 1st round when there's not a player he's enamored with. Since they are one pick ahead of us & we are known to need a qb & many other positions, don't be surprised if some team that has an eye on a player, trades w/dallas to get ahead of us.

If nothing else, they could limit our opportunities to trade back.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:50 AM   #11
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Dallas could play a pivotal role in this draft. JJ has taken the Tuna's lead & likes to trade out of the 1st round when there's not a player he's enamored with. Since they are one pick ahead of us & we are known to need a qb & many other positions, don't be surprised if some team that has an eye on a player, trades w/dallas to get ahead of us.

If nothing else, they could limit our opportunities to trade back.
If somehow Prince Amukamara is there at #9, which I know is doubtful, you know they will take him. Their secondary was troubling last year.
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:46 AM   #12
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

I think I'm with the majority around here that doesn't want us to take one of these qbs in the first round. None of them really scream "franchise Quarterback". That being said, if they absolutely are determined to take one, then I'll go with Locker. While he has a number of issues to work on, the ones he doesn't need to work on are his mechanics or learning how to take a snap from center. Eliminating those tasks will make it a little easier in teaching him the rest of the pro game. If we take Locker, we should not see him starting if all goes well until perhaps 2012. I'd like to see them do with him what Bill Walsh did with Joe Montana: put Locker into the game in low stress situations where the final outcome will be more than likely positive, but not dependent on Locker win/lose the game. Let him build up his confidence some while still seeing live action before becoming the starter.
I feel we should trade down and add more picks. See what falls to us and go from there. If trading down isn't an option, take a guy like Quinn as V. Miller is unlikely to be available outside the top 5 and if Locker is there in the second take him, otherwise, take a interior lineman, cb or wr.
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Re: Is locker going in the first or second?

Locker is the first QB I've ever seen that's much better under center then he is in the Gun.
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Locker is the first QB I've ever seen that's much better under center then he is in the Gun.
Maybe that's why he'd be much better in the 2nd or 3rd round than at #10...

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Whoa, juskins burning bridges with another member, not a surprise. I've made mistakes etiquette-wise myself, but he takes it to another level with the triple-combo of not reading counterpoints well, fallacious reasoning ,and douchiness.
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