Out of state Redskins fan rant….Parental Guidance Suggested

[MTK]

Here's some value for those paying attention.

Morris was some serious value in the draft, period.

Cousins? You can never underestimate having a good backup/spot starter.

A. Robinson was a 6th rounder last year, he made some plays for us this year.

Mo Hurt was a 7th rd pick last year, he stepped in nicely last year at LG and this year at RT. Valuable swing lineman.

Guys to watch in 2013: Compton, Crawford, K. Robinson, LeRibeus.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Here's some value for those paying attention.

Morris was some serious value in the draft, period.

Cousins? You can never underestimate having a good backup/spot starter.

A. Robinson was a 6th rounder last year, he made some plays for us this year.

Mo Hurt was a 7th rd pick last year, he stepped in nicely last year at LG and this year at RT. Valuable swing lineman.

Guys to watch in 2013: Compton, Crawford, K. Robinson, LeRibeus.

And thats just the draft.

We've signed alot of value free agents who have been key contributors:

Garcon, Morgan, Kory L., Polumbus (not that hes good, but for the money, i dont think we could have done much better), Bowen, and Cofield... they've all met or exceeded expections and none of them broke the bank

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

And thats just the draft.

We've signed alot of value free agents who have been key contributors:

Garcon, Morgan, Kory L., Polumbus (not that hes good, but for the money, i dont think we could have done much better), Bowen, and Cofield... they've all met or exceeded expections and none of them broke the bank

Shhhhhhhhhhhh....

pointing things out like this only feeds The Butt Head.

By all accounts, Shanahan has transformed the culture of this team by building through the draft and select free agents.

San Fran had been doing so before Shanny started, and Harbaugh was able to take a good, young roster and make it a very good team. Carroll (much as I dislike him) has taken an average team (7-9 his first two years) and assembled a young winner built to compete for the long term - in part because he got lucky with Wilson.

If you put RGIII in Seattle or SF, he would be crazy good. I think we are close to the same here. Another offseason like the last two and I think Shanny has the turnaround complete.

[donofriose]

Redskins have been drafting well recently. Manly the past 2 or 3 seasons, obviously we all hope it continues. I just hope redskins stop making crazy offseason moves. Winners in march usually means losers in December. Already have made too many trades and big free agent signings with shanahan. Hopefully the focus is to sign some key understated guys that don't want 50+ mil (like bryd who will probably be franchises or resigned anyway). As it is wih other teams, the redskins best players are the ones the redskins drafted and developed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Redskins have been drafting well recently. Manly the past 2 or 3 seasons, obviously we all hope it continues. I just hope redskins stop making crazy offseason moves. Winners in march usually means losers in December. Already have made too many trades and big free agent signings with shanahan. Hopefully the focus is to sign some key understated guys that don't want 50+ mil (like bryd who will probably be franchises or resigned anyway). As it is wih other teams, the redskins best players are the ones the redskins drafted and developed.

You mean guys like Chester, Bowen, Kory L., Cofield, Morgan, etc?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

So i've got something new i want to rant about - Colts fans who are b!tching and whining that Andrew Luck isnt in the ROY conversation. They keep pointing out that he took a 2-14 team and turned them into an 11-5 team.

I say that's crap. Indy was a perennial 13-3 team when they had a good quarterback and 2-14 team when they were starting guys that shouldnt even be 3rd stringers with a head coach who was a complete joke.

Andrew Luck may develop into an elite passer, but in 2012, he wasn't all that impressive. I know QB rating isnt perfect, but its a decent guideline that correleates pretty well to the "eyeball test." In 2012, the to 8 NFL players in QB rating were (in order):
Aaron Rodgers
Peyton Manning
Robert Griffin II
Russell Wilson
Matt Ryan
Tom Brady
Ben Rothlisberger
Drew Brees

Andrew Luck was 26th. Blaine Gabbert, Nick Foles, Mike Vick, Christian Ponder, and Ryan Fitzpatrick all had better QB ratings than Luck. If Ryan Fitzpatrick is better than you in a category that combines multiple statistics, you're not any good. He was 14th in the league with 23 TDs, but 4th in interceptions with 18. Fellow rookie Russell Wilson threw 3 more TDs with 8 less picks. RGI threw 3 less TDs but with an astonishing 13 less picks (only 10).

I'm sorry Colts fans, but Andrew Luck wasnt very good. The only category of note where Luck put up favorable numbers in comparision to the other rookies (let alone other quarterbacks) is passing yards. To that i say - Luck threw like crazy in the 4th quarter when defenses were playing prevent because the opposing team had built up large leads - partly due to Lucks ineffectiveness and mistakes throughout the earlier parts of the game. So while he did earn the yards, i dont think its as much of a "positive" as you might think.

No sane person would argue that Luck was a better rookie QB than RGIII or Wilson. And quarterbacks werent the only noteable rookie offensive players in 2012. If we're talking skill position players (and offensive ROY candidates almost always are) Alfred Morris and Doug Martin also be in the conversation. You can only really include Luck in the conversation if you want it to be a big conversation. And even if you include him, you cant do so seriously.

Going by every measurable statistic, RGIII is the clear front-runner for ROY, with Wilson a close 2nd. If youre going to include a third player in the conversation, its going to be Alfred Morris, not Andrew Luck. Sorry Colts fans. Andrew Luck isnt getting snubbed. He's just not in the conversation because he doesnt desreve to be.

[RGIII]

Marroon and black?! Summo print us up some shirts!