2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 3)

[BigHairedAristocrat]

just looking at the teams that were in the afc and nfc championship teams over the past few years, it looks like most of those teams DIDN'T have a first round QB that the team drafted. atleast half got to that point with veteran QBs. this further makes me think that whomever we draft in the 1st round, should not be someone we take a gamble on. there are lots of ways to build successful franchises. you dont need to draft a top5 QB to be successful anymore than you need to draft a top5 left tackle or pass rusher. its all about making smart decisions in free agency, keeping your draft picks, and making wise use of the picks you have.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

just looking at the teams that were in the afc and nfc championship teams over the past few years, it looks like most of those teams DIDN'T have a first round QB that the team drafted. atleast half got to that point with veteran QBs. this further makes me think that whomever we draft in the 1st round, should not be someone we take a gamble on. there are lots of ways to build successful franchises. you dont need to draft a top5 QB to be successful anymore than you need to draft a top5 left tackle or pass rusher. its all about making smart decisions in free agency, keeping your draft picks, and making wise use of the picks you have.

I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.

Well said. Considering the depth of this draft and the number of needs this team has, i think our best option is to trade down and pick up as many picks in rounds 1 and 2 as possible. With multiple picks, we shouldn't have to reach to fill any of our actual needs.

if we can't trade down, we need to make sure that whomever we select at 4 meets a need AND is close to being the BPA.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well said. Considering the depth of this draft and the number of needs this team has, i think our best option is to trade down and pick up as many picks in rounds 1 and 2 as possible. With multiple picks, we shouldn't have to reach to fill any of our actual needs.

if we can't trade down, we need to make sure that whomever we select at 4 meets a need AND is close to being the BPA.

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

That'd be great

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

would love that.. hit the 3rd OT or so

either that or slide back a bit more towards mid and pick up a 3rd or early 4th

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

Now that's what I'm talking about!!

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

If we miss out on Bradford that would be the best possible outcome. Like you said though...its assuming Shanny doesn't love Clausen and none of us really know how he even rates these QB's.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You know, if Shanny is not sold on Clausen, but Buffalo is, we might see this:
Washington sends Buffalo #4 overall pick (1800 draft value chart points)
Buffalo sends Washington #9 overall and #41 overall (1840 points)

We slide down to #9 and pick up a second rounder

that would make me happy beyond belief. its possible the skins are already trying to manipulate the situation to increase the likelyhood something like this occurs. rumor had it the bills were interested in trading for Campbell. Perhaps we rejected their overtures, in part, to increase Buffalo's interest in Clausen.

With those picks, we could probably get:

#9 - Dez Bryant, WR, Ok State
#36 - Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
#41 - Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida

Oh wait, i forgot Vinny's gone. With Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen making the picks, we could end up with:

#9 - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
#36 - Jahvid Best, RB, California
#41 - Jared Odrick, DT, PSU

This would make me very, very happy.

[freddyg12]

[QUOTE=53Fan;676627]I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.[/QUOTE]

True, also in our case something was wrong w/decisions being made about drafts, i.e. trading picks that seriously hindered the team's ability to address needs.

Pick by pick I think the skins have actually drafted fairly well in the danny era, it's just been a problem of burning picks for little return, see B Loyd, J. Taylor, TJ Duckett, even the Champ trade.

[redsk1]

[quote=freddyg12;676672]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I think it's all about fulfilling your needs. I think sometimes it's easy to get caught up in, "WOW that guys fantastic!" Yes he might be an upgrade at his position, but does that position need to be upgraded as much as another? Is it a large upgrade that would make a difference in wins and losses? And do you ignore your greatest needs by taking this guy? Sometimes you're stuck and have to take BPA, but if at all possible, trade down and address your needs. When you have the same needs year after year, somethings wrong with the way you're drafting.[/QUOTE]

True, also in our case something was wrong w/decisions being made about drafts, i.e. trading picks that seriously hindered the team's ability to address needs.

Pick by pick I think the skins have actually drafted fairly well in the danny era, it's just been a problem of burning picks for little return, see B Loyd, J. Taylor, TJ Duckett, even the Champ trade.

You had to bring up the TJ Duckett trade. I've almost forced myself to forget about it. Perhaps, one of the worst trades we've ever made. Uggg. I just can't see us making any of those stupid trades any more.

[SmootSmack]

I think there's something going on, something more than just some fluff news, but I don't know what it is

[celts32]

Larry is the king of fluff news...he says he has a major announcement coming and then it usually ends up being something like the fields at Redskins Park being watered.

[SmootSmack]

Interesting, hadn't heard that Michael said that. I never really listen to him anyway up here

Anyway, whatever I hear I will, of course, let you all know

[tryfuhl]

big news

porter leaves with/without contract