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skinsfanthru&thru · 05-08-2004, 03:35 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...ight&type=lgns

looks like skinsncanes has another former hurricane out there to pull for now that ken dorsey is their starting qb. i wonder how the 49ers feel about letting garcia go now.

cpayne5 · 05-08-2004, 03:36 PM

youch

Daseal · 05-08-2004, 04:22 PM

Garcia was far from the future of San Fran. Their biggest mistake was getting rid of Mariuchhi. Time for them to start over! I'm glad, I hate the 49er's, but gotta feel sorry for their fans.

skins009 · 05-08-2004, 04:36 PM

I think i know who might be picking first in the draft next year. 49ers

hi-jinx · 05-08-2004, 05:13 PM

I can't believe they have more dead cap money then the Skins. I thought we were the kings of dead cap space. I dont know too much about these things but doesn't that type of injury mean that even if he comes back this season he still won't be 100%. They could ask for cap relief, if he wont play at all, right? Then couldn't they then go for Warner or Collins.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-08-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hi-jinx

I can't believe they have more deap cap money then the Skins. I thought we were the kings of dead cap space. I dont know too much about these things but doesn't that type of injury mean that even if he comes back this season he still won't be 100%. They could ask for cap relief, if he wont play at all, right? Then couldn't they then go for Warner or Collins.

i would agree that this is a type of injury that is gonna tke longer than this season to heal completely from. i think they may make a push for either of those guys, especially warner cuz he might like the idea of playing against the rams 2 times a year even if it was with the 49ers.

lou · 05-09-2004, 01:36 AM

Ken Dorsey may just be the next Tom Brady. Still cant believe the Skins selected Gilbran Hamden over him in the draft.

SKINSnCANES · 05-09-2004, 02:07 AM

Yea I agree, Dorsey would have been a much better pick. Dorsey will succeed because all he knows how to do is win. People say his arm isnt strong enough, well its not as strong as most QBs, but if you know that and make the smart throws it doesnt matter. GO CANES

drew54 · 05-09-2004, 03:40 AM

Maybe the Niners will pick up Collins or Warner. Either one would be a good fit, since they are killing off the West Coast offence in SF.

BrudLee · 05-09-2004, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Yea I agree, Dorsey would have been a much better pick. Dorsey will succeed because all he knows how to do is win. People say his arm isnt strong enough, well its not as strong as most QBs, but if you know that and make the smart throws it doesnt matter. GO CANES

There are a litany of guys who won at the college level that couldn't play in the NFL. Hamdan may have been a foolish pick (since he likely would have been available as a free agent after the draft), but Dorsey's relatively weak arm puts him on the same page as the dozens of QB's with winning records whose physical skills don't match up to the pro game.

As the success of other players from storied programs (like Miami, in this case) shows us, the QB gets too much credit for victories. Remember the players Dorsey had around him - Portis, Shockey, et al. With players like that, I could succeed on the 1-A level.

Daseal · 05-09-2004, 10:43 AM

Yeah, I bet Dorsey flounders in the NFL. He didn't win games, but he didn't lose them either.

MTK · 05-09-2004, 11:38 AM

If I'm the 49ers I'd be all over Kerry Collins.

I think the 49ers are being overly optimistic in thinking Rattay will be ready to roll come week 1.

MTK · 05-09-2004, 11:40 AM

Dorsey does know how to win, but so did Wuerffel. You still have to have the physical skills to go along with the mental portion of the game.

SKINSnCANES · 05-09-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Yeah, I bet Dorsey flounders in the NFL. He didn't win games, but he didn't lose them either.

Dorsey did win games for the Canes. He was the leader on offense. Brock Berlin lost games for the Canes. Im not saying hes going to be a great NFL QB, but he was the leader on the Miami offense and lead them to victory. Losing him had more of an impact that anyone of the players that were drafted in the first round.

JoeRedskin · 05-09-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Yea I agree, Dorsey would have been a much better pick. Dorsey will succeed because all he knows how to do is win. People say his arm isnt strong enough, well its not as strong as most QBs, but if you know that and make the smart throws it doesnt matter.

Isn't that what Spurrier said about Wuerffel??

05-08-2004, 03:35 PM	#1
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	Rattay tears groin http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...ight&type=lgns looks like skinsncanes has another former hurricane out there to pull for now that ken dorsey is their starting qb. i wonder how the 49ers feel about letting garcia go now.

05-08-2004, 05:13 PM	#5
hi-jinx Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis Age: 50 Posts: 180	I can't believe they have more dead cap money then the Skins. I thought we were the kings of dead cap space. I dont know too much about these things but doesn't that type of injury mean that even if he comes back this season he still won't be 100%. They could ask for cap relief, if he wont play at all, right? Then couldn't they then go for Warner or Collins. Last edited by hi-jinx; 05-08-2004 at 05:53 PM.

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SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Yea I agree, Dorsey would have been a much better pick. Dorsey will succeed because all he knows how to do is win. People say his arm isnt strong enough, well its not as strong as most QBs, but if you know that and make the smart throws it doesnt matter. GO CANES __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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05-08-2004, 03:36 PM	#2
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	youch

05-08-2004, 04:22 PM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Garcia was far from the future of San Fran. Their biggest mistake was getting rid of Mariuchhi. Time for them to start over! I'm glad, I hate the 49er's, but gotta feel sorry for their fans.

05-08-2004, 04:36 PM	#4
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	I think i know who might be picking first in the draft next year. 49ers

05-09-2004, 01:36 AM	#7
lou Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisburg PA Age: 54 Posts: 6	Ken Dorsey may just be the next Tom Brady. Still cant believe the Skins selected Gilbran Hamden over him in the draft.

05-09-2004, 03:40 AM	#9
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Maybe the Niners will pick up Collins or Warner. Either one would be a good fit, since they are killing off the West Coast offence in SF.

05-09-2004, 10:43 AM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Yeah, I bet Dorsey flounders in the NFL. He didn't win games, but he didn't lose them either.

05-09-2004, 11:38 AM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	If I'm the 49ers I'd be all over Kerry Collins. I think the 49ers are being overly optimistic in thinking Rattay will be ready to roll come week 1.

05-09-2004, 11:40 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Dorsey does know how to win, but so did Wuerffel. You still have to have the physical skills to go along with the mental portion of the game.

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