Pacman Arrested

[gibbsisgod]

FOX Sports - NFL - Titans' 'Pacman' Jones arrested outside bar

Looks like this kid is a first class eff up.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

FOX Sports - NFL - Titans' 'Pacman' Jones arrested outside bar

Looks like this kid is a fist class eff up.

I'm sooo friggin tired of these young thugs tearing down the image of the NFL. What's funny is these guys make Sean Taylor look okay.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I RARELY pull the race card, and this is going to sound VERY wewhite3 of me, but if this guy were white, would you call him a thug?

I've just noticed that over the years and just wanted to bring it up today.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I RARELY pull the race card, and this is going to sound VERY wewhite3 of me, but if this guy were white, would you call him a thug?

I've just noticed that over the years and just wanted to bring it up today.

Interesting point. I think 'thug' is relegated to African-American athletes in general. Honestly, and I'm speaking for myself, I generally never speak of white athletes in those terms. And from what I've read here from other members, white athletes are generally considered, stupid, moron, idiot, a..hole, knucklehead, but rarely thug.

[remaxjon]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I RARELY pull the race card, and this is going to sound VERY wewhite3 of me, but if this guy were white, would you call him a thug?

I've just noticed that over the years and just wanted to bring it up today.

Good call on the race card but I would call him a criminal and if he was white perhaps it would be a wanna be thug. Thank you Joe Gibbs for seeing that this guy is piece of work. I was so high on him before the draft and upset that we didn't get him. This is one of the many reasons why I make it a point to not question Joe ever.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I RARELY pull the race card, and this is going to sound VERY wewhite3 of me, but if this guy were white, would you call him a thug?

I've just noticed that over the years and just wanted to bring it up today.

Um yeah. Its sad b/c I like Pacman- his talent will be among the best of the younger guys its sad they have all the advantages but cant leave the hood behind. However, has anyone been out drinking ? Its nearly impossible to not cross path with some idiot/s that need to be dealt with.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

However, has anyone been out drinking ? Its nearly impossible to not cross path with some idiot/s that need to be dealt with.

so true.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

so true.

If you think you understand at 17 just wait till your 21+.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

If you think you understand at 17 just wait till your 21+.

hehe. that's my post count. happy b-day to me...I just turned 18!

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I RARELY pull the race card, and this is going to sound VERY wewhite3 of me, but if this guy were white, would you call him a thug?

I've just noticed that over the years and just wanted to bring it up today.

Definition of thug: A brutal ruffian or ganster.

I see no reference to a black man in that definition. It is the ACTIONS of the player that make him a thug, not his skin color.

Sheesh.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Definition of thug: A brutal ruffian or ganster.

I see no reference to a black man in that definition. It is the ACTIONS of the player that make him a thug, not his skin color.

Sheesh.

I think we all agree on the textbook definition and even the orgin of the word itself. In the heat of the moment when I'm passing judgements and making off color remarks, sorry sometimes I do, I don't refer to Wikipedia or Google.

The bigger question is have we, as a whole, been conditioned to think of and label a particular culture in a certain way? I think it's a valid argument.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The bigger question is have we, as a whole, been conditioned to think of and label a particular culture in a certain way? I think it's a valid argument.

Absolutely. IMO, that is what has happened with racism--it's gone underground (in America). What's worse, people don't even think that it's racism--they think you have to be lynching and segregating to be racist.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Absolutely. IMO, that is what has happened with racism--it's gone underground (in America). What's worse, people don't even think that it's racism--they think you have to be lynching and segregating to be racist.

That's kinda my point. If you search some of the old Sean Taylor threads when he got arrested on the aggravated assault charge, I was pretty heated about the whole 'thug' thing. If you're not conditioned or think this way - outstanding!

I think it's more subtle and powerful than we realize.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think we all agree on the textbook definition and even the orgin of the word itself. In the heat of the moment when I'm passing judgements and making off color remarks, sorry sometimes I do, I don't refer to Wikipedia or Google.

The bigger question is have we, as a whole, been conditioned to think of and label a particular culture in a certain way? I think it's a valid argument.

You mean a label like the REDSKINS? Or like YANKEES? Valid? Dude, it's life. We've come a long way I think from the days long ago. I'm sure we will continue to better ourselves as people and try even harder to be "politically correct" going forward. I doubt there was any harm meant towards blacks in that comment, it was just a comment and a word was used. The guy is a thug – white/black/yellow. It is what it is.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You mean a label like the REDSKINS? Or like YANKEES? Valid? Dude, it's life. We've come a long way I think from the days long ago. I'm sure we will continue to better ourselves as people and try even harder to be "politically correct" going forward. I doubt there was any harm meant towards blacks in that comment, it was just a comment and a word was used. The guy is a thug – white/black/yellow. It is what it is.

Well I'm not sure Reskins or Yankees enters into this discussion quite the same way. Simply because neither one always, all the time carry a negative image, unlike the word thug. (I just said I wasn't going to stretch this out!) There is nothing positive or of any redeemable value in that word. Nothing. In fact, it carries a negative connotation.

Yes, we've come a long way! Yes, it's life....I agree! And I'm not getting on anyway in particular. I'm just saying is it possible that we have been conditioned to think a certain way and not know it?