Pro-gun article

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Sorry Rat, but you posting that article and then asking how NOT having a gun would improve the situation is pretty stupid.

It's provocative, not stupid. If you live in a rural area calling cops isn't an option. But I got what I wanted, a gun debate. Yay!

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I could post these articles and ask you to explain how HAVING a gun helped in these situations:

Father Accidentally Shoots Seven-Year-Old Son Outside Gun Store



YCSO: 12-year-old accidentally shoots, kills father



Father Accidentally Shoots Son while Cleaning Shotgun



Startled Father Fatally Shoots His Daughter - NYTimes.com

I could post far more 'Saved by the Gun' stories, I chose not to. All those stories you posted are essential undisciplined gun owners.

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

That point aside, why would anyone object to OFFICERS OF THE LAW having guns? Given recent events in Colorodo, its possible, if not likely, that if the intruder was armed, he was there to carry out a hit on them BECAUSE they were officers of the law.

I hope you're not suggesting that only Law Enforcement should be trusted with firearms?

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

And if it was just a random burglary, the intruder probably did not have a gun or intent to cause harm.

If you go onto someones property uninvited who decides the intent? I don't want to wait to see why someone is there before I react.

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Ultimately, neither side is going to change the others' minds. Lets consider two scenarios:

Scenario 1 - A law is passed outlawing all guns
Criminals would still have them. So some innocent people would die because they couldnt defend themselves from criminals. But lives of innocent people would be saved by eliminating gun-related accidents caused by members of their own family. Its a matter of whose lives you want to save. People are going to die either way.


Scenario 2 - Magically, you can take guns away from EVERYONE, good guys and badguys alike
Criminals could still kill you with knives. But on the other hand, its hard to accidently stab someone to death with a knife. So we're in the same situation. People are going to die either way - its a matter of which group you want to save.

<Eric_Cartman_voice>"I *hate* scenarios......"

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

THE only way to stop violence is to get rid of all the violent people. Dont send them to prison for a few years. Dont allow them to be a part of society. Get rid of them.

Now you're touching on one of my favorite topics: Eugenics. We can breed certain anti-social traits out.
Mmmmmmmmmm.