Clinton Portis sues NFL over concussions.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yup it's always on Goodell.

With the help of the owners and NFPLA, it sort of is- his agenda and show. I don't think it can be argued against that he has expanded the nfl product but in so doing its partially intended to be more exciting with higher scoring games and appealing to wider markets of kids, women, and the world.

Personally I think Thrusday night football, London games, talk of 18 game season, partial blame for rule changes that effect kickoffs, lowering helmet, celebrations, imposing cap penalties, and the change from laid back Taligliabeau to ruling with an iron fist and being an NFL Sheriff doesn't help his cause to like him or not judge him b/c football shouldn't become soft. I like defense.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

With the help of the owners and NFPLA, it sort of is- his agenda and show. I don't think it can be argued against that he has expanded the nfl product but in so doing its partially intended to be more exciting with higher scoring games and appealing to wider markets of kids, women, and the world.

Personally I think Thrusday night football, London games, talk of 18 game season, partial blame for rule changes that effect kickoffs, lowering helmet, celebrations, imposing cap penalties, and the change from laid back Taligliabeau to ruling with an iron fist and being an NFL Sheriff doesn't help his cause to like him or not judge him b/c football shouldn't become soft. I like defense.

Goodell isn't the one suing for injuries sustained while playing. Nearly all these rules that "soften" the game, are being driven by the lawsuits of former players. The owners/Goodell are not suddenly humanitarians, they simply don't want to lose in court, and if they don't show attempts to protect and inform the players, they will lose.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Goodell isn't the one suing for injuries sustained while playing. Nearly all these rules that "soften" the game, are being driven by the lawsuits of former players. The owners/Goodell are not suddenly humanitarians, they simply don't want to lose in court, and if they don't show attempts to protect and inform the players, they will lose.

Well if that's the case, the nFL has the money to continue football and use the proceeds towards better pensions. If money is coming in where does it go? I'm not waiting all year for flag football. Changing a game and making it softer/safer takes away from the experience of the fan. Stat records change. I mean if players get hurt so be it. Hope they stayed in college, got a degree, saved $, and can live off what the union has agreed upon as far as medical coverage. Being a pro athlete is still a better living than not. Nowadays the defense isn't even allowed to hit a "defenseless receiver" but that receiver has protection to catch the ball and score and threaten the oppositions success? I see that as misbalanced. Guys lose jobs if receivers score. Idk, I feel like this emphasis to grow the nfl and be more appealing serves a majority that doesn't even appreciate or understand the sport if high scoring and non exististent defense is what is thrilling.

I'm off my soapbox. I'm going to go back outside and yell at cars driving too fast on my street.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

With the help of the owners and NFPLA, it sort of is- his agenda and show..

BS ,you have blamed everyone but the players ,the players knew what they were doing end of story .Do I think the NFL should do more to help retirees....yes but are they at fault for this ...NO . Goodell sure as hell isn't at fault.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Giantone

BS ,you have blamed everyone but the players ,the players knew what they were doing end of story .Do I think the NFL should do more to help retirees....yes but are they at fault for this ...NO . Goodell sure as hell isn't at fault.

You go into rage mode every time someone criticizes Goodell. Its almost like you expect the Giants to be allowed to fake injuries to get extra timeouts and know that Goodell wouldnt do anything about it. Not like that would ever happen though...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

You go into rage mode every time someone criticizes Goodell. ...

1) It gets old 2) it gets boring 3) it is BS .

Your definition of rage and mine are very different .

Blaming Goodell for everything wrong ....and yes SOME people here do , is lazy and just BS.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Giantone

1) It gets old 2) it gets boring 3) it is BS .

Your definition of rage and mine are very different .

Blaming Goodell for everything wrong ....and yes SOME people here do , is lazy and just BS.

It happens, you arent changing anyones mind. Debate someone on the merits of Goodell if you want. He has done some good and some bad, but that just matches pretty much anyone else running a large operation. Its not just here that you will find people moaning about Goodell.

As for 'rage mode' being said on the internet. That doesnt mean you are punching holes in your walls or wanting to beat up a neighbor. Its an expression to mean someone getting pissed off/angry. And your posts pertaining to Goodell come across as exactly that. Give your reasonings for your opinion and move on.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Give your reasonings for your opinion and move on.

I did, it's the people that blame Goodell all the time for everything from concussions to the Kennedy assignation that need to explain exactly how the Commissioner does the things he is accused of.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I did, it's the people that blame Goodell all the time for everything from concussions to the Kennedy assignation that need to explain exactly how the Commissioner does the things he is accused of.

Its hard to take you seriously when you are claiming that some are blaming Goodell for Kennedy being 'assignated'.