Redskins Lions postgame

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Agreed. We just don't the talent. Orakpo is just not what we need him to be. Where was Kerrigan today? Can the guys that play inside cave in the pocket? What about the penalties? Missed tackles?

When they go back to practice they shouldn't even game plan. Just hit, tackle...fundamentals.

Bowen has been MIA for 3 weeks. Orakpo is inconsistent, but mostly terrible when asked to cover. I've always felt that Rak makes a better 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB. He has underachieved in this system.

[RedskinRat]

Suicide watch begins. Calm down, FFS!

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[skinsfaninok]

what is alarming is RG3 is a TO machine this yr

[Bucket]

I think i'm the only one who likes the current Regime. I can go without Haslett, as I enjoy a defensive cordinator who is aggressive and mean. Who likes to show it on the sideline with his team and encourage them to be beasts.. Haslett kinda seems like the most calm D coach iv'e ever seen. I never see any type of expression on his face. If I was him and the defense was missing so many tackles.. I would be throwing a headset and clipboard, and grabbing my players showing them how to tackle lol.

I enjoy Kyle, and really feel like the offense moved the ball really well today. We had a INT on a good drive, a Fumble, and another FUMBLE after we dropped a 50+ touchdown.

Just seems we left a lot of points on the field today and to blame Kyle or Mike for those errors when the game was called pretty well is really off point.

One thing I did enjoy was the man coverage we played today that I haven't seen all year. I remember one case where it was 3rd and 5 for Detriot. Kerrigan showed blitz after lining up over the slot, and when he blitz the safety came up to man the slot forcing Stafford to delay his throw and ended up under throwing him..

I wanna see more man coverage. I would rather be burned in man coverage then give up chunks of yardage in the zone. I know Seattle plays heavy man coverage and it works glorious for them because they have physical corners. I feel like Amerson is the first step to being one of those physical corners. He played pretty good today, and proved he was worth the pick.

Jordan Reed also looked fast and sure handed. Guy made forget all about Fred Davis, and made me realize that Paul could be on his way out next year once we start building some more cap.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Bowen has been MIA for 3 weeks. Orakpo is inconsistent, but mostly terrible when asked to cover. I've always felt that Rak makes a better 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB. He has underachieved in this system.

If your hearing Bowens name a lot then he's not doing his job in the 3/4. It's not his job to get in the backfield and make huge plays. Although it helps when he does sometimes, when the ball has commited to his side.

[skinsfaninok]

hey lets lose so we get a top 5 pick.....

oh wait

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Bucket

If your hearing Bowens name a lot then he's not doing his job in the 3/4. It's not his job to get in the backfield and make huge plays. Although it helps when he does sometimes, when the ball has commited to his side.

Tell that to J.J. Watt, who also is a 3-4 DE. 3-4 DE's can make plays...but Bowen hasn't.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

This may be the dumbest post in your long history of dumb posts here. It reeks of ignorance, and brings the down the value and quality of this site. Don't post crap like this again here

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The problem I have with posts/opinions like these is they assume coaching talent is forever limited to what we see today, and then adding a second illogical assumption we'll automatically make a rash move e.g. Chip Kelly. You could just easily point to Pete Carroll, who's completely turned Seattle into a contender. Or the Colts. New coach, lots of new faces, and they're kicking ass. Or what Elway did in Denver, pull together two coaches from pretty listless situations and suddenly that team is a contender (don't forget, Denver was winning before Peyton got there, it's just that now it's a powerhouse team).

The point is, human capital, in this case coaching talent, is NEVER a limited supply. This coaching staff/chemistry sucks from top to bottom. Mike has sucked for over a decade, and that's why Denver kicked him to the curb. Haslett has never achieved anything to write home about. Same with Kyle, when he left Houston they didn't skip a beat. We have losers leading this team, period. Aside from a brief 8 game stint where the stars perfectly aligned - rest of the NFC East completely fell apart, new offensive scheme took defenses by surprise, etc. - this has not been a serious football team since Mike came to town.

Find the right coach, and this team could be a contender in a year or two. We see it happen over and over and over again around the league. It's our turn.

Denver was 8-8, 8-8, 4-12, 8-8 prior to Peytons arrival. They went 13-3 when Peyton got there. If thats what you call winning prior to Peytons arrival. What... The... Hell...

The year Tebow played, they won the division at 8-8. That division was pretty bad prior to this year. Even so, its mainly Denver and the Chiefs this year, and the Chiefs were actually a talented team last year based on how many players went to the pro bowl.

You also dont ever acknowledge the shape of this team prior to Mikes arrival. Old, terrible, and in horrible cap shape. Even without the Haynesworth and Dhall contracts that got us the cap penalty, we would have still been in terrible cap shape. Since not only would we still have their guaranteed money to deal with, meaning we wouldnt have been able to cut them, we would have been dealing with their annual salaries on the books as well, since we wouldnt have been able to cut them. That means even worse teams talent wise than getting the guaranteed money into the uncapped year and dealing with almost 19 mil less cap space that most teams.

Mike did not take over a team with good players that couldnt get it done under the prior coaches, such as San Fran, Seattle, and the Chiefs. He took over a train wreck. The assumption that anyone was turning this team around in a couple of years is a joke. About the only one who could have done that was Gibbs, and if we are basing firing a coach based on being as good as Gibbs, then 30 HC's in the NFL are being fired this year, maybe even all 32.

Am I going to cry if Kyle or Haslett get fired? No... But to continue to claim that this team was a Super Bowl caliber team when Mike arrived to continue your notion that its all Mikes fault is laughable at best.

But then again, you havent said anything else since his arrival, even after they won the division for the first time since 99' last year.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This may be the dumbest post in your long history of dumb posts here. It reeks of ignorance, and brings the down the value and quality of this site. Don't post crap like this again here

It's not levity? I'm with the Smack on this.

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[MTK]

Tough loss today. Can't help but think the Skins beat themselves. Too many turnovers/mistakes. Next week is officially must win territory.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

@ESPNStatsInfo

The #Redskins have allowed 1,464 yards through first 3 games, most in NFL history.


This speaks for itself.


@granthpaulsen

Trent Williams: "It doesn't feel good to be 0-3. It sucks. But there's nothing we can do about it now." #Redskins

Nothing you can do about it Trent? You can ****ing start playing with a purpose and like you guys are being paid to do.

I think he meant nothing they can do now about being 0-3. It's true. Can't change that.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

I dig you Gus, but no... Just no..

[Lotus]

So SS, would Mike fire Kyle midseason? Or will we be hamstrung from Shanahan family bickering all year?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

This isn't The Replacements with Keanu Reaves.

What are you talking about? If the NFL said F this and paid every player the minimum and everything else was performance driven, you would have a much better product. I am not talking about replacing any players. The NFL is a corporation with individual franchise within the corporation, but it is a corporation. Corporations are shedding jobs and forcing those employed to work harder for their money, so why can't the NFL do that with the players. I am sure the owners would love that, and so would the fans. It just might cut ticket prices and give you more bang for your buck. Seriously now!!!!!!! These players that are raised in the hip hop culture have no incentive to win, when a huge sum of their $$$$$$$ is guaranteed upfront. They are one track minded, and that is $$$$$$$$$. It is a guy who is regularly screwing a girl who wants to get married. The guy doesn't have any incentive to walk down the aisle since he already is getting his. The NFL product is mediocre anymore. Why do you think the networks go over the top with the hype machine with it? The game should sell itself like it did in the 70-80's with minimal hype, except during the SB.