Around the NFL Week 5

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I remember Aussie rules on espn, but would argue it was already a totally established brand even 20 or 30 years ago. Shoot I watched sportscenter with buddies every day after high school.

20 years ago... sure. 30 years ago... Not a chance. 30 years ago, ESPN was only a few years old and was showing racquetball, hurling (sort of a field hockey thing), Aussie rules football and things of that nature. Sports Center showed promise, so they started repeating it over and over.

A deal that ESPN made with the NCAA for College Basketball to air games during march madness that the major networks werent showing got people talking about them (sometime in the very early 80's). Didnt make them much money, but got them recognized. It was college basketball 24/7 for a week or two that had people asking the cable networks to sign ESPN as a cable channel.

When they started, they didnt even call themselves ESPN. They called themselves the ESP Network. Which was confusing for something that was showing sports around the clock.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I remember Aussie rules on espn, but would argue it was already a totally established brand even 20 or 30 years ago. Shoot I watched sportscenter with buddies every day after high school.

It didn't really become "established" until around 1987 when it got the right to air NFL games. So nearly a decade after Berman arrived. And there were other networks that attempted to become sports networks and failed. For example, not many people know the original intention with USA Network was to make it a 24 hour sports network.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think matty ice is overrated. I dont think he is a great qb.

I think he's good/ top 10. His team is having a bad year. They got rid of their best pass rusher and RT in Clabo. That defense is so depleted from losing Abraham and with injuries, that they can't stop anybody.

I had Atlanta making the playoffs this year. Now I'm inclined to put either 3 NFC north teams in, or 2 NFC North and 2 NFC West teams.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

20 years ago... sure. 30 years ago... Not a chance. 30 years ago, ESPN was only a few years old and was showing racquetball, hurling (sort of a field hockey thing), Aussie rules football and things of that nature. Sports Center showed promise, so they started repeating it over and over.

A deal that ESPN made with the NCAA for College Basketball to air games during march madness that the major networks werent showing got people talking about them (sometime in the very early 80's). Didnt make them much money, but got them recognized. It was college basketball 24/7 for a week or two that had people asking the cable networks to sign ESPN as a cable channel.

When they started, they didnt even call themselves ESPN. They called themselves the ESP Network. Which was confusing for something that was showing sports around the clock.

You are correct. I remember that some people informally called ESPN "the basketball channel" in the early 80's.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I mean what people have said on here already is pretty much in line with what I agree with.

You say that he's not an asshole, but the videos that were released of Berman looked like they were from multiple days. It didn't look like he was having one bad day, and was being an a-hole, but that rather he might be a daily a-hole.

Sure, some of these guys on camera are a-holes off camera. Whether Berman is or isn't an a-hole isn't the full reason I hate the guy, its just a portion of the reason. His annoyance, which you agree with, is about 90% of the reason why I don't like him. Sure he helped build up ESPN, but that doesn't mean you work there until you die, there comes a when you step down. Bermans time came about 7 years ago. And the fact I see him in commercials now, doesn't help with the whole annoyance thing.

I don't know what point you're trying to make. But I'm moving on

[SmootSmack]

Nice play calling by Morninwheg tonight

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I mean what people have said on here already is pretty much in line with what I agree with.

You say that he's not an asshole, but the videos that were released of Berman looked like they were from multiple days. It didn't look like he was having one bad day, and was being an a-hole, but that rather he might be a daily a-hole.

Sure, some of these guys on camera are a-holes off camera. Whether Berman is or isn't an a-hole isn't the full reason I hate the guy, its just a portion of the reason. His annoyance, which you agree with, is about 90% of the reason why I don't like him. Sure he helped build up ESPN, but that doesn't mean you work there until you die, there comes a when you step down. Bermans time came about 7 years ago. And the fact I see him in commercials now, doesn't help with the whole annoyance thing.

Yeah, why trust someone who knows Berman personally when we can trust random internet videos instead.

[Bucket]

Atlanta is 1-4...

Better fire their coach.

[MTK]

Big win for Geno and the Jets. Didn't see that one coming. I'm in a big money survivor pool and half the pool just got knocked out.

[FRPLG]

That was a horrendous holding call against the Jets too. Glad they overcame that.

[NC_Skins]

Big win by the Jets. Got to say that Rex's players are straight up balling out for him and it shows. I wished our players played that hard for Shanahan. :-|


Falcon's season is pretty much over. Not going to win the division, and I doubt they end up with a wildcard. I thought they peaked last year. Too many years went by with blown opportunities.


This guy is pretty good though.

[punch it in]

^ that catch was amazing.
Geno was clutch tonite. I watched him alot in college but I did not think he would come along as quickly as he appears to be. Especially on this Jets team. Just goes to show you how much everyone knows before the season starts.
Giants, Skins, Falcons, steelers, texans cant buy a win and the Jets, Browns, and Chiefs are looking better every week. Crazy.

[CrustyRedskin]

this has been one weird season so far.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

this has been one weird season so far.

I agree, but thats what makes this league great.

I just saw the highlights from the game last night. Im really starting to like Geno Smith. Big win, hats off to Rex.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Big win by the Jets. Got to say that Rex's players are straight up balling out for him and it shows. I wished our players played that hard for Shanahan. :-|


Falcon's season is pretty much over. Not going to win the division, and I doubt they end up with a wildcard. I thought they peaked last year. Too many years went by with blown opportunities.


This guy is pretty good though.

Maybe the Jets players are excited to have a QB who gives them a chance to win and not a guy named Sanchez.

Geno is growing as a QB and his players are helping him out.