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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Sounds like he was owning that mistake to me.

How about the other balls that sailed over receivers hands? The bomb he overthrew Robinson on that would have tied up the game? How about the fumble where he held the ball too long? (yes, I know Helu half assed the block) It was more than just that one throw.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ideally he shouldn't have brought up anything that could be viewed as a criticism of the coaches or play calling. But on the other hand he's frustrated just like everyone else and sometimes you say shit you shouldn't. He's not the first guy to do it.

I think people need to take a step back and realize he's a 2nd year QB and a 23 year old guy. He's figuring things out as he goes, on and off the field. It always amazes me how as a society we love to build people up and in the next breath break them back down.

He's not the first because Cam Newton did the exact same thing last year, after he blew a chance to win a game by throwing a ball in the dirt with Olsen wide open in the end zone. Needless to say, Cam got raked across the coals and rightfully so.

Tell me, do you hear any flap from Luck? Tannehill? Wilson? Any of them? This young excuse is just that. An excuse. Time for Robert to put on the big boy pants and suck it up. He wants the fame, the glory, the commercials, but also wants to deflect the blame. Fuck that. Take the heat. Yes, I do agree with him about the play calling and yes I'm ready for Kyle and several other coaches to move on. However, you aren't going to endear yourself to the fans, public, or any future coaches by saying the stuff he's said over the coarse of the past year. You'd thought he'd learn from the whole kneegate issue, and the crap over the training camp. It's not hard to just shut the fuck up. Really, it's not.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

How about the other balls that sailed over receivers hands? The bomb he overthrew Robinson on that would have tied up the game? How about the fumble where he held the ball too long? (yes, I know Helu half assed the block) It was more than just that one throw.

He's not the first because Cam Newton did the exact same thing last year, after he blew a chance to win a game by throwing a ball in the dirt with Olsen wide open in the end zone. Needless to say, Cam got raked across the coals and rightfully so.

Tell me, do you hear any flap from Luck? Tannehill? Wilson? Any of them? This young excuse is just that. An excuse. Time for Robert to put on the big boy pants and suck it up. He wants the fame, the glory, the commercials, but also wants to deflect the blame. Fuck that. Take the heat. Yes, I do agree with him about the play calling and yes I'm ready for Kyle and several other coaches to move on. However, you aren't going to endear yourself to the fans, public, or any future coaches by saying the stuff he's said over the coarse of the past year. You'd thought he'd learn from the whole kneegate issue, and the crap over the training camp. It's not hard to just shut the fuck up. Really, it's not.

What's he supposed to do, go through a laundry list of his mistakes and apologize for each one?

At this point anything he says is going to get picked apart.

He wasn't right in his comments but I don't think it's the end of the world either.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What's he supposed to do, go through a laundry list of his mistakes and apologize for each one?

At this point anything he says is going to get picked apart.

He wasn't right in his comments but I don't think it's the end of the world either.

Most definitely. It isn't the end of the world and we move onto next week. I don't agree with the notion that anything he says will get picked apart. We've had 7 losses and this is the only loss where his words have been used to flame the fire.


"Hey guys, that last play was totally on me. The team put me in good position to secure this game and I blew it. There were other throws that could have been made during the course of the game to where it didn't come down to the last play but you learn from it. You'd like a mulligan on some of them, but that simply isn't possible. Next time we'll make those throws and come out on top. I'm proud of the way the guys fought back to make this a winnable game and I'm glad to share the locker room with these guys."

See, not really that hard.

[NC_Skins]

Moss: The Ball Was in RGIII’s Hand Last « CBS DC


Seems I'm not the only one that feels this way. Now you have Moss calling out Robert's leadership skills. I'd say that's some strong words there, and it isn't minced.

“If we’re going to win games, we need to win games with our guy saying ‘at the end of the day, I didn’t make a play,’ regardless of if it wasn’t him. And that’s how I feel. Because that’s what we’re out there to do. I’m not sitting here to tell you why it didn’t happen, or who didn’t make the play for me to make a play.

“If I’m the guy, that’s at the end of the day have the ball in my hand, and we’re sitting there and the game is over because of me, I didn’t do enough to make the play. I didn’t do enough to help us win. And that’s what I would do.

He also wrecked the Skins as well for not instructing some players on what they should be saying or not be saying to the media. He also admitted the Eagles knew the plays they were running. This is a train wreck.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What's he supposed to do, go through a laundry list of his mistakes and apologize for each one?

At this point anything he says is going to get picked apart.

He wasn't right in his comments but I don't think it's the end of the world either.

You're exactly right, but unfortunately that won't stop people bitchin' about it for the next year until the 'skins start playing better ball - namely RGIII. Then those same bitches will start riding RGIII's jock again.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You're exactly right, but unfortunately that won't stop people bitchin' about it for the next year until the 'skins start playing better ball - namely RGIII. Then those same bitches will start riding RGIII's jock again.

This has nothing to do with how he's playing. I'd say the same damn thing if we were 10-0.


Robert Griffin III has more to learn - ESPN

Stop and take a look around. Even the neutral based writers see it. This isn't something that's conjured up because we are losing.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This has nothing to do with how he's playing. I'd say the same damn thing if we were 10-0.


Robert Griffin III has more to learn - ESPN

Stop and take a look around. Even the neutral based writers see it. This isn't something that's conjured up because we are losing.

Yes, it is something being conjured up because the Redskins are losing. How many times was RGIII's leadership questioned last year? None.

I do not get the impression from John Keim's piece that he, himself, is questioning the leadership of RGIII. John Keim's reaction: " You need to be careful about what you say." That's not an indictment on RGIII's leadership, it's just an indictment on RGIII being more careful about what he says in post game interviews. And Keim goes on to site Sally Jenkins - do I need to say anything about her? Honestly? Darrell Green - his flip flopping on the Redskins name puts his credibility in question. And Santana Moss? Seems like Moss needs to learn to shut his mouth. If Moss had a beef with something RGIII said, he should have pulled RGIII aside, privately to speak to him man to man. None of this passive aggressive going to the media stuff. Moss needs to look at himself before he indicts RGIII.

I think that's all Keim's point was. If you don't watch what you say, you'll have people picking your words apart. Trust me, happens all the time here.

Let's be real about this. Robert is 23 years old. He's a young pup. A lot has been placed upon his shoulders with this franchise. It's almost a curse that he had such a great rookie season. That, in itself, just magnified the pressure ten fold. Has Robert ever been in a situation where he's on a losing team? I don't think so. This is all new to him. He has to learn and he will.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Yes, it is something being conjured up because the Redskins are losing. How many times was RGIII's leadership questioned last year? None.

Let's be real about this. Robert is 23 years old. He's a young pup. A lot has been placed upon his shoulders with this franchise. It's almost a curse that he had such a great rookie season. That, in itself, just magnified the pressure ten fold. Has Robert ever been in a situation where he's on a losing team? I don't think so. This is all new to him. He has to learn and he will.

I haven't said the first thing about leadership. Not one. I've said something about him blabbing to the media, which still stands.

The people that have brought leadership up is Fletcher, Green, and now Moss. If you want to consult them about RGIII's leadership, by all means do so, but not sure why you even direct that towards me. Besides, the fact his teammates are questioning his leadership in public says a great deal. A huge deal.

Stop using that "he's young" as a excuse. Is he stupid? Is he a moron? The answer is no to both of those, so he knows good and god damn well to shut the hell up. He doesn't want to because nobody is going to tell him what to do or how to play. He's said this on several occasions. Luck is in a more pressure situation than RGIII was. Imagine a team cutting a SB MVP and future hall of famer who practically built the stadium you are playing in, just so they can anoint you the next biggest star? Luck is a much greater pressure situation than Robert. By far. Also, his team was much much worse, and his offensive line is atrocious. Do you hear Luck blaming his coaches or OL during press conferences? Nope.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I haven't said the first thing about leadership. Not one. I've said something about him blabbing to the media, which still stands.

The people that have brought leadership up is Fletcher, Green, and now Moss. If you want to consult them about RGIII's leadership, by all means do so, but not sure why you even direct that towards me. Besides, the fact his teammates are questioning his leadership in public says a great deal. A huge deal.

Stop using that "he's young" as a excuse. Is he stupid? Is he a moron? The answer is no to both of those, so he knows good and god damn well to shut the hell up. He doesn't want to because nobody is going to tell him what to do or how to play. He's said this on several occasions. Luck is in a more pressure situation than RGIII was. Imagine a team cutting a SB MVP and future hall of famer who practically built the stadium you are playing in, just so they can anoint you the next biggest star? Luck is a much greater pressure situation than Robert. By far. Also, his team was much much worse, and his offensive line is atrocious. Do you hear Luck blaming his coaches or OL during press conferences? Nope.

Wait a minute. You're posting posts and links about articles that's supposedly questioning RGIII as a leader, and then saying you have not said one word about his leadership, but then go on this diatribe in your last paragraph here, quoted, saying "He doesn't want to because nobody is going to tell him what to do or how to play." So, if that's not questioning the guy's leadership skills, I don't know what the hell is? And Luck is under much greater pressure? LMAO!!!! You cannot be serious NC? You're comparing Indy to Washington D.C.? Let that sink in for a second. Indy to Washington D.C.