Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[Gary84Clark]

It is still six games left. If they had of pulled out the Minnesota game and the last minute come back Sunday, RG3 would be looked at as a god again.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

^ I think Luck has been awesome. Remember that same team went from a horrid season to a playoff team in his first year. They look pretty good this year too. The guy never loses back to back games.
Nick Foles has one of the best running backs in the league, a defense that is quietly become very good, and has played absolutely nobody during his recent "rise to the top". Luck is better than Foles hands down.

Yeah but Indy was a playoff caliber team the year before. He had the pieces around him to succeed right off the bat.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yeah but Indy was a playoff caliber team the year before. He had the pieces around him to succeed right off the bat.

About time someone told it like it is Moss speaking up which makes me believe maybe he isn't the long term answer. What a waste that would be. I guess everyone has heard about Moss's comments but have seen no discussion about it. But Moss isn't happy if you haven't heard. Maybe everyone else on the team has said the same and I haven't heard about that yet.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yeah but Indy was a playoff caliber team the year before. He had the pieces around him to succeed right off the bat.

Really? They were 2-14 the year before he took over. People were saying Manning should win the mvp and he didnt even play! Lol. The team obviously had lackluster talent on both sides of the ball minus Manning. Insert Luck and they go from 2 wins back to the playoffs for consecutive years. Give the guy some credit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Really? They were 2-14 the yeae before he took over. People were saying Manning should win the mvp and he didnt even play! Lol. The team obviously had lackluster talent on both sides of the ball minus Manning. Insert Luck and they go from 2 wins back to the playoffs for consecutive years. Give the guy some credit.

They went 2-14 mainly because they had garbage QB play. If Manning was healthy do you really think they win 2 games?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

About time someone told it like it is Moss speaking up which makes me believe maybe he isn't the long term answer. What a waste that would be. I guess everyone has heard about Moss's comments but have seen no discussion about it. But Moss isn't happy if you haven't heard. Maybe everyone else on the team has said the same and I haven't heard about that yet.

Here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...week-12-a.html

And here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...e-rg3-our.html

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Really? They were 2-14 the year before he took over. People were saying Manning should win the mvp and he didnt even play! Lol. The team obviously had lackluster talent on both sides of the ball minus Manning. Insert Luck and they go from 2 wins back to the playoffs for consecutive years. Give the guy some credit.

So Alex Smith is one of the best QBs in the NFL according to the 2-14 the year before logic.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They went 2-14 mainly because they had garbage QB play. If Manning was healthy do you really think they win 2 games?

No of course not, and if Luck played they dont win two either. They had no defense and were far from competitive. Ive seen other teams with garbage qb play not be absolute trainwrecks. 2-14? Not sure you can say a 2-14 team has the pieces around to be a playoff team no matter who is playing qb. RexBeck was a better team. Lol. Im saying Manning and Luck are that good - they both put lackluster teams (2-14) on their backs and made them playoff teams.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So Alex Smith is one of the best QBs in the NFL according to the 2-14 the year before logic.

The Colts did not have Jamal Charles. The Colts did not have that defense. That is a case where the pieces were there. Im not saying that u can insert a great qb onto any team and make them winners. Im talking strictly about Lucks situation. Apples and oranges.
Edit: ill also say ....again.... That the chiefs are highly overrated. Look at who they have beat - its garbage. They will benefit from an extremely weak schedule and get into the playoffs - and get knocked out of the first round. Luck beat the broncos. Smith - with a better D and better run game - did not.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So Alex Smith is one of the best QBs in the NFL according to the 2-14 the year before logic.

if you look at the numbers, Alex Smith has been below average everywhere except QB Wins and TD vs Turnovers. I think Andy goes QB in the draft early this year

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...week-12-a.html

And here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...e-rg3-our.html

"already being discussed in several threads"

I don't see any discussion about that. I thought nobody saw it since there was no discussion about it or thread mentioning it where I posted my thread. I see no response to you mentioning it what so ever. They do talk about Moss's contract however in detail.

What discussion because I want to see what folk think about it. Where is that discussion so I can read what everyone was discussing? You sure anyone saw that? No wonder I didn't know it was already posted. Certainly wouldn't want to repeat any discussion about that again. My apologies for the double post just the same.

[Gmanc711]

@mikefreemanNFL13m
Had text chat with Washington player re RG3. Oh boy. Ohhhh boy.


CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT NEW REPORT THIS BRINGS!!


Seriously, its bad enough this team sucks; all this drama is ridiculous and makes me really concerned for the future.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

@mikefreemanNFL13m
Had text chat with Washington player re RG3. Oh boy. Ohhhh boy.


CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT NEW REPORT THIS BRINGS!!


Seriously, its bad enough this team sucks; all this drama is ridiculous and makes me really concerned for the future.

Shouldn't coach be trying to keep his players under control? This is turning into a 3 ring circus.

I can only imagine what that locker room is like on gameday. Like a bunch of zombies I bet.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

"already being discussed in several threads"

I don't see any discussion about that. I thought nobody saw it since there was no discussion about it or thread mentioning it where I posted my thread. I see no response to you mentioning it what so ever. They do talk about Moss's contract however in detail.

What discussion because I want to see what folk think about it. Where is that discussion so I can read what everyone was discussing? You sure anyone saw that? No wonder I didn't know it was already posted. Certainly wouldn't want to repeat any discussion about that again. My apologies for the double post just the same.

Sorry should have said this topic has been "mentioned" or briefly discussed in these threads.

Overall I didn't think it was a big deal myself. Griffin does need to be more careful with what he says as things get spun out of control really quick.

I thought Keims take was pretty good

But one part of his responsibility is accepting full blame. The Washington Post’s Sally Jenkins wrote on that topic. Yes, Griffin needs to learn this. I don’t know if it’s an unwillingness to do so, or a desire to give a full explanation of a play, which is what he did Sunday night. He talked about how no one was open; he talked about how a guy was coming straight at him. Both things were true. It just took a long time for him to say, “It was something I shouldn’t do.” To many, that phrase got lost in the shuffle -- that’s not necessarily Griffin’s problem, by the way. Sometimes it’s a matter of reading the entire quote. Still, it should have been the only thing he said about this play.

Robert Griffin III has more to learn - ESPN

[Gary84Clark]

Moss has been dropping alot of balls.