Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Thanks SS for starting this up and putting the poll in there.

lol...what does Michael Scott say?

[RFKRat]

Anyone BUT Shanahan and his cronies, relations etc.

The man has won one playoff game in soon to be fifteen seasons of coaching. That sucks, but people still talk about him like he won his two SBs last year.

Some are assuming he'll make some good FA moves, sign people, etc with all this money the Redskins are allegedly going to spend to buy a champion. But people forget other teams will have money too, and they don't have the legacy of utter dysfunction that this team does now. Oh they might come here since the Redskins also are well known for throwing millions at any shiny toy Danny wants...but I bet most want to go somewhere more reliable and that isn't in turmoil.

Besides...will new players stop the rash of all the usual Shanahan hallmarks? Teams being unprepared. Players racking up tons of killer stupid penalties, especially the personal fouls, unsportsmanlikes, etc. Poor clock management. Awful game plans. Lack of adjustments. Will 18 mil of new players fix all that? Will it fix the fact that this franchise for years has been more about marketing jerseys than winning games? Will it make Shanahan and Griffin less arrogant and full of themselves? Will it get Griffin off the social media for five minutes?

New players might help but only if there is a total regime change. Shanahan's day has passed him by and the results prove that.

Blow it up. Not that it will make much difference. The Redskins are so easy to predict. Wash, rinse, repeat, it's been the same for 20 years.

[KI Skins Fan]

Skip this post.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

lol...what does Michael Scott say?

Indeed.

[SmootSmack]

Art Briles won't take anything less than an HC job to leave Baylor. Most big time college coaches won't

Mike Shanahan has earned the right to choose who is on his staff

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Art Briles won't take anything less than an HC job to leave Baylor. Most big time college coaches won't

Mike Shanahan has earned the right to choose who is on his staff

Given the state of the team Mike has produced I think the owner/mgmt have equally earned the right to strip Mike of basically any and all powers they see fit. This is a coach who hasn't put a competitive team together in roughly a decade.

[DirtBagZ]

I voted Art Briles, SBXVII, raises some good points. I just think the guy has an amazing life's story, overcame a tremendous amount of adversity at a young age. Also, since he was RGIII's college coach, there should be good chemistry one would hope.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Given the state of the team Mike has produced I think the owner/mgmt have equally earned the right to strip Mike of basically any and all powers they see fit. This is a coach who hasn't put a competitive team together in roughly a decade.

So a vinny/Snyder police state ala zorn is what we want? No. And did you watch last year? Haven't seen the board like this in awhile the last couple days.

[CrustyRedskin]

I dont see Phade Willips on the list. Hmm. And no love for Lovie. Geesh tough crowd.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Given the state of the team Mike has produced I think the owner/mgmt have equally earned the right to strip Mike of basically any and all powers they see fit. This is a coach who hasn't put a competitive team together in roughly a decade.

First of all, I think what Snyder and Vinny did to Zorn was wrong. I also think that Zorn should have resigned rather than accept it.

Secondly, I think there is no way in this world that Dan Snyder could get away with doing that sort of thing to Mike Shanahan. I can't imagine Mike putting up with it, and he shouldn't. It is better to be fired than to lose your self-respect.

[HailGreen28]

So far, same answer as last season. Mike Shanahan.

Wish Mike would let Haslett go, though.

[NYCskinfan82]

MS allow him to spend all that $$$.

[CrustyRedskin]

Iv seen this movie before. Spend a $hit load of money on a bunch of wash ups have a terrible season coach gets fired and we start all over. Hopefully BA doesn't let that happen.

[KI Skins Fan]

The following are excerpts from Thomas Boswell's column in today's Washington Post. In Boswell's opinion, the primary issue to consider in the decision to keep Mike Shanahan or let him go is not his management of the offense or his relationship with and development of RGIII. It is his record in managing the other parts of the team, primarily the defense.

Do you agree?

Boswell writes:

"How good is Mike Shanahan? Not how good does he think he is. How good really?

Not just as an offensive theorist, but as builder of all parts of a team, since that’s his job description. How good is he at picking coaches for all three units, then, as de facto general manager, guiding selection of every player? As he says, 'You are your record.'

Mike Shanahan has overseen franchise’s worst defense in 50 years, which counts for something.

Here’s the appetizer. In his fourth year, Shanahan has built the worst Washington defense in 50 seasons. This defense is so awful that if it slashed the number of points it allows by 40 percent in its past six games, it would still be the worst in D.C. since ’64.

In his past six seasons, two in Denver and now four in D.C., Shanahan has been the architect of defenses that look like a bridge collapse. Whether you keep him, and for how long, or fire him, depends on whether you think he can fix this problem.

Since 1954, only two Washington teams have been so bad on defense that they allowed 400 points — 412 and 421 under Norv Turner . This year’s Redskins may give up 500 points. That’s f-i-v-e h-u-n-d-r-e-d. After 10 games, they’re on pace for 498.

Because Shanahan makes every important decision, he’s responsible for every important result. In his years, Washington has ranked 20th, 22nd, 22nd and now 30th in points allowed . That’s an average ranking of 24th in a 32-team league. That’s the worst defensive standing, relative to the whole league, in the reign of any Redskins coach since Otto Graham in the ’60s.

The Redskins are currently giving up 31.1 points per game. Only one Washington team in history has been worse — it was in 1954 . In the past 50 years, the worst mark was 26.3 points. Yes, offense is up a tad in the NFL this year to 23.4 points per game versus 21.3 for the past 20 years. But even with that adjustment, the Redskins are awful in absolute terms, and also relative to the league as a whole.

In 20 years of NFL coaching, Shanahan has only had one top five defense. A half-dozen of his Denver defenses were good. He hasn’t always been bad. But for his entire career, his average rank in points allowed has been 16th — middle of the league.

It’s the trend of his past half-dozen teams, especially this one, that’s most worrisome. In Shanahan’s final two years in Denver, his Broncos ranked 28th and 30th in points allowed (409 and 448). In other words, his last two Broncos teams gave up more points than the two worst Redskins teams of the entire 16-game-season NFL era of the past 35 years.

What’s sunk this season, with their playoff odds now at 1.4 percent, has been awful defense, as well as atrocious special teams that are last or next-to-last in the NFL in kicking field goals or returning any ball that’s punted or kicked.

The Redskins allowed an average of 314 points in the three years before Shanahan arrived. That’s the baseline. Since he brought in Jim Haslett as coordinator and replaced a functional 4-3 defense with a generally inept 3-4, the number of points allowed, per full season, has skyrocketed to 398.

Nothing, except a franchise quarterback, means as much in the NFL as picking your coach. And nothing raises unexpected hell more than switching one. At least debate the issue along the right lines. With complete control, and without any major injuries this season, Shanahan has overseen the construction of the worst Washington defense in 50 years. That’s where you start.

That’s the 500-point elephant in the room."

[irish]

In spite of it all I want Shanny to finish out his contract and decide from there.