Skins Giants postgame

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

The big question is will he ever had that type of speed again?

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

Yeah next year he'll definitely be much closer to his old self. Hard to believe he's still less than a year removed from a serious injury.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Barring further injury, when he can take the knee brace off, yes IMO.

That might be the reason he can't turn it on. Being careful doesn't make you less effective. He got all the yards he could get. It's not like he said I can get more yards if I run head on to these tacklers. He got all he could get. Last year there was more running room and he took it. The times he tried to get more yards that were not there was when he got his block nearly knocked off. The open field isn't there like it was last year. Even Morris didn't do as well .RG3s speed is what is in question and that brace can't help that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

That might be the reason he can't turn it on. Being careful doesn't make you less effective. He got all the yards he could get. It's not like he said I can get more yards if I run head on to these tacklers. He got all he could get. Last year there was more running room and he took it. The times he tried to get more yards that were not there was when he got his block nearly knocked off. The open field isn't there like it was last year. Even Morris didn't do as well .RG3s speed is what is in question and that brace can't help that.

He basically heads toward the sideline when he runs now. He doesn't have the same reckless abandon and that's a good thing, and teams this year are more than willing to let him take the 8-10 yard runs vs the big ones he would rip off last year.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He basically heads toward the sideline when he runs now. He doesn't have the same reckless abandon and that's a good thing, and teams this year are more than willing to let him take the 8-10 yard runs vs the big ones he would rip off last year.

The big ones he ripped off last year aren't there to be ripped off this year. He always ran towards the sideline even when he was running last year. The big gains aren't there because there is no room to make them not because he decides to run out of bounds. Proof is when he dove for the 1st down a few games ago and nearly turned a flip in the air to get it. Everyone remembers that play. If he was going to run out of bounds to be safe like you say that was the play he would have done it. But that isn't what happened. If he thinks there is a chance to take it to the house I think he would take it to the house. He is just being smart and getting out of bounds because there is nothing else to get. RG3 would tell you the same thing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

The big ones he ripped off last year aren't there to be ripped off this year. He always ran towards the sideline even when he was running last year. The big gains aren't there because there is no room to make them not because he decides to run out of bounds. Proof is when he dove for the 1st down a few games ago and nearly turned a flip in the air to get it. Everyone remembers that play. If he was going to run out of bounds to be safe like you say that was the play he would have done it. But that isn't what happened. If he thinks there is a chance to take it to the house I think he would take it to the house. He is just being smart and getting out of bounds because there is nothing else to get. RG3 would tell you the same thing.

I would argue the big opportunities aren't there mostly because he isn't looking for them. He's content with the 8-10 yd runs and the D will give that to him all day.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I would argue the big opportunities aren't there mostly because he isn't looking for them. He's content with the 8-10 yd runs and the D will give that to him all day.

Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread up that was already "discussed" Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you more than once but I see now why my thread was closed at least.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread already discussed but posted by someone for a different personal reason? Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you but I see now why my thread was closed at least. If you don't like them you shut it down but if you like them they stay up. It's your board though. I say Jon Gruden would be a great coach. I really don't mind discussing something more than once.

Goat's thread had gotten silly and he had actually asked that it be closed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Why dive and fly thru the air if you're not looking to make big plays. That is the proof that he is not looking to just get of of bounds. If he was looking to not get extra yards then he would have also got of bounds before making that first down play while flipping like Olga Korbut. I believe what I see before what I hear. What you believe and I believe is what it is but when I see plays like that first down play which is not a run out of bounds play that is proof.

Is he more careful this year and get of bounds when nothing else is there? Yes. Is the brace slowing him down. Yes. Is he getting of bounds and leaving big plays that he could run and and make. No. If you see a play where he could have run for a touchdown or 50 yards and he didn't post it so we can all see. I'll admit I'm wrong if you can. There is a new thread about who the head coach should be which was a thread The Goat already brought up. Any personal reason you would shut down a thread of someone who brings up a thread supposedly already discussed but leave another thread up that was already "discussed" Not that I don't mind talking about any subject mind you more than once but I see now why my thread was closed at least.

Just from my own observance and following some folks on Twitter that break down plays it's pretty clear that RG is not nearly as aggressive when running this year. On occasion yes he has fought for yards when he needs to, but overall he's just not attacking defenses with his legs like he did last year. He heads straight to the sideline most of the time, he's not looking to cut back for more, and he doesn't push the issue on the option play, i.e. he doesn't sell it like he did last year.

No personal reasons as to why your thread was closed, as I pointed out there was already a couple of active threads discussing RG, no need for another one was all. Just trying to keep the board clean.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I would argue the big opportunities aren't there mostly because he isn't looking for them. He's content with the 8-10 yd runs and the D will give that to him all day.

I'm sure RG3 is not looking for big plays. That makes sense.He sees that he can make a big play but decides not to do it. Both my points have been made.