Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread

firstdown · 12-16-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Getting away from the tiring QB talk for a sec, is there any doubt about Orakpo anymore? Get a deal done with this guy asap. 7.5 sacks in the last 6 games. He's definitely having his best season.

One of the announcers said yesterday that Orakpo said he was excited to test free agency so I'm not sure he will be in a skins uniform come next year. His timing to start playing better seems almost like he is giving more effort then in the start of the season.

Lotus · 12-16-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Getting away from the tiring QB talk for a sec, is there any doubt about Orakpo anymore? Get a deal done with this guy asap. 7.5 sacks in the last 6 games. He's definitely having his best season.

Rak has not been the elite player that we hoped to get.

That said, he certainly is "good enough" and guys like him don't grow on trees. So I hope that we lock him up with a reasonable (not huge) contract.

Lotus · 12-16-2013, 12:54 PM

I was impressed by the character of our team against the Falcons. Given everything else (and the KC performance), there was every reason to think that they would not show up and/or fold immediately. While it would have been better to get a W, it was nice to see us being competitive.

irish · 12-16-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Rak has not been the elite player that we hoped to get.

That said, he certainly is "good enough" and guys like him don't grow on trees. So I hope that we lock him up with a reasonable (not huge) contract.

I agree, he's not the elite player he was expected to be. I'm not against re-signing him but not for elite player $.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-16-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Teams are desperate for a QB, look around the league and when you see Case Kenum, Cassel, Flynn (started for multiple teams), the kid from duke started for the Bills, Freeman, the performance of Geno Smith, etc. Teams are giving anybody a chance to come under center and lead a team. I think a 2nd round pick isnt a crazy risk for any team who believes Cousins can lead a team.

Flynn is a great example because he had one helluva game and cashed it into a monster paycheck.

Chico23231 · 12-16-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Flynn is a great example because he had one helluva game and cashed it into a monster paycheck.

Packers need to go ahead and sign Flynn as the official back up to Rodgers. Obviously the system and coaches make it a good fit for both.

Jayroc24 · 12-16-2013, 01:57 PM

I have not been completely impressed with Orakpo, but we all need to keep in mind that the one year he was with Haynesworth under Blache, he was elected to the Pro Bowl. If I remember right he had 10+ sacks.
The defense as a whole has been pretty terrible the last 4 years. I do believe the is alot of talent there.....

MTK · 12-16-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Rak has not been the elite player that we hoped to get.

That said, he certainly is "good enough" and guys like him don't grow on trees. So I hope that we lock him up with a reasonable (not huge) contract.

No he's not elite (not many guys are) but he's been good and at times very good. LBs that can get you 10+ sacks don't grow on trees as you say.

FRPLG · 12-16-2013, 03:00 PM

Rak has been a very good player for us. Outside of the injuries. For the 13th(?) pick in the draft we got pretty good return. I'd take a player of Rak's relative capabilities everywhere on the team.

skinsguy · 12-16-2013, 03:16 PM

I think here's the thing to remember. Other teams are probably going to offer Brian Orakpo a comparable contract to one the 'skins will offer him. I don't know if you're going to find a team that's willing to offer him an elite contract. And if so, more power to Brian. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic (or maybe in the case of Rak, pessimistic) but I think it will come down to simply Rak wanting to stay a Redskin or wanting a change in scenery. I don't think he's done enough to command a huge contract, but I could be wrong.

With that said, I do hope he's retained, because both him and Kerrigan are solid guys to build a defense around.

NC_Skins · 12-16-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't know if you're going to find a team that's willing to offer him an elite contract..

Teams do stupid shit. Cleveland offered Paul Kruger a stupid contract.

GTripp0012 · 12-16-2013, 04:18 PM

Shanahan has a long history of making the wrong decision with the cornerstone defensive player, so the key issue is getting the right guy in here who will make the best decision for the longterm health of the franchise.

donofriose · 12-16-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Teams do stupid shit. Cleveland offered Paul Kruger a stupid contract.

Hopefully the days of the skins giving out overpaid contracts are behind them.

GTripp0012 · 12-16-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who would have thought Atlanta, Washington, and Houston would be scraping the bottom of the NFL barrel this year?

I had Houston playing for the Super Bowl and Washington winning the division before the season. I thought Atlanta was a last place team, although I thought more like 6 or 7 win last place than 4 or 5.

donofriose · 12-16-2013, 04:24 PM

Cousins performance was similar to the performance of RG3 vs Minnesota. Amazing first half and then the second half happened. Except cousins threw picks.

It's not a coincidence that Washingtons offense played well against two of the worst defenses in the NFL.

I think a good game to judge cousins will be the giants game. Sadly enough they are the best D cousins will face.

12-16-2013, 12:54 PM	#78
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread I was impressed by the character of our team against the Falcons. Given everything else (and the KC performance), there was every reason to think that they would not show up and/or fold immediately. While it would have been better to get a W, it was nice to see us being competitive. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

12-16-2013, 01:57 PM	#82
Jayroc24 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 331	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread I have not been completely impressed with Orakpo, but we all need to keep in mind that the one year he was with Haynesworth under Blache, he was elected to the Pro Bowl. If I remember right he had 10+ sacks. The defense as a whole has been pretty terrible the last 4 years. I do believe the is alot of talent there.....

12-16-2013, 03:00 PM	#84
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread Rak has been a very good player for us. Outside of the injuries. For the 13th(?) pick in the draft we got pretty good return. I'd take a player of Rak's relative capabilities everywhere on the team.

12-16-2013, 03:16 PM	#85
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread I think here's the thing to remember. Other teams are probably going to offer Brian Orakpo a comparable contract to one the 'skins will offer him. I don't know if you're going to find a team that's willing to offer him an elite contract. And if so, more power to Brian. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic (or maybe in the case of Rak, pessimistic) but I think it will come down to simply Rak wanting to stay a Redskin or wanting a change in scenery. I don't think he's done enough to command a huge contract, but I could be wrong. With that said, I do hope he's retained, because both him and Kerrigan are solid guys to build a defense around. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

12-16-2013, 04:18 PM	#87
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread Shanahan has a long history of making the wrong decision with the cornerstone defensive player, so the key issue is getting the right guy in here who will make the best decision for the longterm health of the franchise. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-16-2013, 04:24 PM	#90
donofriose The Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,097	Re: Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread Cousins performance was similar to the performance of RG3 vs Minnesota. Amazing first half and then the second half happened. Except cousins threw picks. It's not a coincidence that Washingtons offense played well against two of the worst defenses in the NFL. I think a good game to judge cousins will be the giants game. Sadly enough they are the best D cousins will face.

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