Redskins name Bruce Allen Team President/ GM

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

When Bruce Allen fails, and he will, can we still blame Snyder? I would think I could since the buck still stops with him.

If Bruce Allen succeeds, will you argue it was in spite of Dan Snyder? or will you give Snyder the credit?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If Bruce Allen succeeds, will you argue it was in spite of Dan Snyder? or will you give Snyder the credit?

If Allen succeeds I will give him and Danny credit. Danny will get mad props for hiring him, giving him all those fantasy titles, and victories on the field.

Let's get real though, that won't happen...only the Brown's management and possibly Jerry Jones are dumber than this Redskins lot.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

If Allen succeeds I will give him and Danny credit. Danny will get mad props for hiring him, giving him all those fantasy titles, and victories on the field.

Let's get real though, that won't happen...only the Brown's management and possibly Jerry Jones are dumber than this Redskins lot.

We will have to agree to disagree on the second part.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

If Allen succeeds I will give him and Danny credit. Danny will get mad props for hiring him, giving him all those fantasy titles, and victories on the field.

Let's get real though, that won't happen...only the Brown's management and possibly Jerry Jones are dumber than this Redskins lot.

I don't understand what's so terrible about our management. Are you still living in the past during the glory days of Vinny? Yes, we had a losing season because our franchise QB messed up his knee, but I think over the past two seasons the team has made some good moves. Even Shanahan's departure was tamed compared to all the f*ck ups going on with other teams.

I'm not saying our management team is top notch, but I don't know how someone can say that we're "slightly better" than Cleveland or Dallas.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't understand what's so terrible about our management. Are you still living in the past during the glory days of Vinny? Yes, we had a losing season because our franchise QB messed up his knee, but I think over the past two seasons the team has made some good moves. Even Shanahan's departure was tamed compared to all the f*ck ups going on with other teams.

I'm not saying our management team is top notch, but I don't know how someone can say that we're "slightly better" than Cleveland or Dallas.

My impression is that all that matters to saden is that Dan Snyder is the owner. Nothing else besides that matters. Our GM could be Ozzie Newsome and our HC Bill Belichick and it'd still be irrelevant

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

My impression is that all that matters to saden is that Dan Snyder is the owner. Nothing else besides that matters. Our GM could be Ozzie Newsome and our HC Bill Belichick and it'd still be irrelevant

What are we talking about here? Just a few years ago everyone was excited about Mike Shannahan and the 2 SBs rings he was sporting. If Gurden turns into Belichick great, if Allen gets us to the Championship game, awesome. All that matters is wins and if you really think Allen + Gruden is a winning combination then I am afraid you either don't know much about football or you're blinded by wishful thinking.


Stay wishful my friend.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by saden1

What are we talking about here? Just a few years ago everyone was excited about Mike Shannahan and the 2 SBs rings he was sporting. If Gurden turns into Belichick great, if Allen gets us to the Championship game, awesome. All that matters is wins and if you really think Allen + Gruden is a winning combination then I am afraid you either don't know much about football or you're blinded by wishful thinking.


Stay wishful my friend.

the alternative?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the alternative?

Instead of turning a blind eye criticize the organization and do everything in your power not to put money in their pockets. Cut Dem Off!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the alternative?

Sally doesn't know of any alternative. It's quite easy to sit and throw stones, but providing a realistic alternative is usually not in the vocabulary of the haters.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

, but I don't know how someone can say that we're "slightly better" than Cleveland or Dallas.

i think our FO has come a long way but .... our W-L record over any period of time .. 2 years .. 5 years .. 10 years is bottom 5.

saden is just keeping true to the montage that this FO and owner doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves with a consistent track record and he is not sipping the koolaid a new regime always brings a fan base.


imo i just hope RG3 is RG3 this year .. then anything is possible.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i think our FO has come a long way but .... our W-L record over any period of time .. 2 years .. 5 years .. 10 years is bottom 5.

saden is just keeping true to the montage that this FO and owner doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves with a consistent track record and he is not sipping the koolaid a new regime always brings a fan base.


imo i just hope RG3 is RG3 this year .. then anything is possible.

I don't think people should drink the Kool Aid, but we could have been looking at two consecutive good seasons (and beyond) had it not been for RG3's injury.

Under Vinny and Snyder, the FO made some terrible decisions, which took a couple of years to remedy. I think surely but slowly the team has gotten better. And ever since Bruce Allen came to the franchise, the team has stayed away from the huge f*ck ups that we have seen before.

At the end of the day, this FO needs to show that they are doing good things by having the team win games and make it to the playoffs. But I think for the first time in a long time, the team has a core of talented and young players that can make this a winning franchise for years to come.

Like any fan, I'm cautiously optimistic about the future of the team. And like any team with a rookie coach, a lot of things can happens, but I'm hoping for the best. Otherwise, what's the point of being a fan of the team?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think people should drink the Kool Aid, but we could have been looking at two consecutive good seasons (and beyond) had it not been for RG3's injury.

Under Vinny and Snyder, the FO made some terrible decisions, which took a couple of years to remedy. I think surely but slowly the team has gotten better. And ever since Bruce Allen came to the franchise, the team has stayed away from the huge f*ck ups that we have seen before.

At the end of the day, this FO needs to show that they are doing good things by having the team win games and make it to the playoffs. But I think for the first time in a long time, the team has a core of talented and young players that can make this a winning franchise for years to come.

Like any fan, I'm cautiously optimistic about the future of the team. And like any team with a rookie coach, a lot of things can happens, but I'm hoping for the best. Otherwise, what's the point of being a fan of the team?

You have Bruce Allen in front of the podium saying the defense has no gaping holes. Did I miss something? Did they filled all the DB holes from last year?

The point is to hold people accountable. Show me the wins and I will show you the money.

[Alvin Walton]

Why some of you guys insist on being miserable about your team is beyond me.
The season hasn't even started and you're ready to crucify the targeted idiots on the team/staff.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't understand what's so terrible about our management. Are you still living in the past during the glory days of Vinny? Yes, we had a losing season because our franchise QB messed up his knee, but I think over the past two seasons the team has made some good moves. Even Shanahan's departure was tamed compared to all the f*ck ups going on with other teams.

I'm not saying our management team is top notch, but I don't know how someone can say that we're "slightly better" than Cleveland or Dallas.

Because both Cleveland and Dallas finished with better records then The skins last year.

The skins have been at the bottom of the league for the past decade. Maybe this management will turn it around but lets not act like the skins aren't in unfamiliar territory right now. Until they start producing consistent winning seasons, they are in the same ball park as Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, or any other organization that has been the NFLs jock for the past decade.