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Old 05-28-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Why some of you guys insist on being miserable about your team is beyond me.
The season hasn't even started and you're ready to crucify the targeted idiots on the team/staff.
How about Jay Gruden hasnt coached his first game in the NFL. Yet he is a failure already...
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:18 PM   #2
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How about Jay Gruden hasnt coached his first game in the NFL. Yet he is a failure already...
He got the job not because he is an exceptional coach, he got it because management knows him and he knows the staff. If that's the criteria for hiring people then failure is inevitable.

Nothing about what Jay Gruden has done is impressive or exceptional. Jay Gruden will not elevate this team and within the next 2 or 3 years he will me coordinating somewhere else.
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:27 PM   #3
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He got the job not because he is an exceptional coach, he got it because management knows him and he knows the staff. If that's the criteria for hiring people then failure is inevitable.

Nothing about what Jay Gruden has done is impressive or exceptional. Jay Gruden will not elevate this team and within the next 2 or 3 years he will me coordinating somewhere else.
Plenty of coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes that went on to be great head coaches. There are also a lot of great coordinators out there that have sucked as head coaches. I am happier with this hire than trying to to remake the old Broncos or Redskins.
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Plenty of coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes that went on to be great head coaches. There are also a lot of great coordinators out there that have sucked as head coaches. I am happier with this hire than trying to to remake the old Broncos or Redskins.
Who? Name some of those great head coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes. Joe Gibbs, Bill Belichick of the world were exceptional before they became head coaches.
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Who? Name some of those great head coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes. Joe Gibbs, Bill Belichick of the world were exceptional before they became head coaches.
John Harbaugh is one of the few college coaches that has succeeded in the NFL after being a college coach. I'm sure coming in he had a TON of doubters and naysayers because he was a college coach.

Pete Carroll sucked as an NFL coach (ask any Pats fan) and I'm sure a lot of people had doubts about him coming back after being a successful college coach.

Jim Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator from Philly. I don't think he had an "exceptional" resume and was pretty unknown.

Jeff Fisher was a d-coordinator, who bounced around different teams before becoming head coach. I'm not saying he's super successful, but he's been around for a while as an NFL coach.
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John Harbaugh is one of the few college coaches that has succeeded in the NFL after being a college coach. I'm sure coming in he had a TON of doubters and naysayers because he was a college coach.

Pete Carroll sucked as an NFL coach (ask any Pats fan) and I'm sure a lot of people had doubts about him coming back after being a successful college coach.

Jim Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator from Philly. I don't think he had an "exceptional" resume and was pretty unknown.

Jeff Fisher was a d-coordinator, who bounced around different teams before becoming head coach. I'm not saying he's super successful, but he's been around for a while as an NFL coach.
I think you're getting John and Jim mixed up. John was the special teams coordinator in Philly before getting the B-more head coaching gig. Jim was the head coach at Stanford before he went to the 49ers.

I remember looking at the John Harbaugh hiring in B-more and thinking, "really, a special teams coordinator?" Look how wrong I was lol.
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Who? Name some of those great head coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes. Joe Gibbs, Bill Belichick of the world were exceptional before they became head coaches.


Bill Parcells

John Madden
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Bill Parcells

John Madden
I'll give you Bill Parcells. Madden, though, was exceptional...he helped the team reach the SB.
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I'll give you Bill Parcells. Madden, though, was exceptional...he helped the team reach the SB.

Look at your quote and then think about Madden again .
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Who? Name some of those great head coaches that didn't have exceptional resumes. Joe Gibbs, Bill Belichick of the world were exceptional before they became head coaches.
Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin.
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He got the job not because he is an exceptional coach, he got it because management knows him and he knows the staff. If that's the criteria for hiring people then failure is inevitable.

Nothing about what Jay Gruden has done is impressive or exceptional. Jay Gruden will not elevate this team and within the next 2 or 3 years he will me coordinating somewhere else.
This goes on all around the NFL. People hire who they're comfortable with.
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