Which new defender will have the most impact in '04?

Defensewins · 04-29-2004, 10:30 AM

I have to agree Washington and Taylor are the most likely to have the highest impact on our D. But it would be best if DT Griffen and DE Daniels had the best year because it is our weakest position.

Winskins · 04-29-2004, 11:29 AM

Although I believe that Washington is a talented player on the brink of a big year, I would still have to say that Taylor will make the strongest impact of any of the skin's new players. This is because a quick hardhitting safety can change the way the game is played. Wide receivers will start hearing footsteps and that can make them miss some catches that they would normally make. Furthermore, the opposing team's quarterback has to worry about this dart in secondary coming by and snatching the ball so he has to give an extra look or so before getting the ball off.
I think the biggest impact of Washington coming here is the fact that he will be playing strong-side linebacker, therefore moving Lavar back to his natural position of weak-side linebacker. This should be huge, but Washington is not going to be making the sacks for Lavar (even though I envision him getting quite a few of his own) so I cannot vote him at the top of my list for imcoming impact players.

*Lavar switching to weakside linebacker will benefit us in the following ways:
1) More sacks!!! (this is because he won't get blocked immediately as he does at the strongside position by tight ends. Rather, he will be going up against half backs and full backs and get more speed going, which will increase force, and allow him to run these blockers over)
2) More sacks!!! SORRY, BUT I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH!!

Skins fan 44 · 04-29-2004, 11:52 AM

Well I hope Griffin does, cause it is almost a given that the rest will perform well. Plus if he does with the other d-line it will make the d-backs that much easier.

beg8878 · 04-29-2004, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Barrow will make a better leader than Trotter. That will help a lot having a middle linebacker that steps in and takes charge.

The exact reason why I voted for him......

backrow · 04-29-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Ok, so who voted for "Other" and who is "Other"? Harris, Brown, Campbell, Salava'e?

How quickly did you forget, Ade Jimoh!

Or did you think Ade is as good as gone come final cuts?

SKINSnCANES · 04-29-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by backrow

How quickly did you forget, Ade Jimoh!

Or did you think Ade is as good as gone come final cuts?

Ade isnt a 'new defender', hes what we like to call a 'core Redskins'

kingerock · 04-29-2004, 02:38 PM

I voted for Griffin. I think with 6 NFC East games and very suspect running games for all of them, most teams wont run outside on Washington and Arrington, forcing them inside right into Griffin. On pass defense, when we bring a blitz from either the weak or strong side, the LBs are going to get double teamed leaving the middle suspect and a good DT to make some big plays inside.

cpayne5 · 04-29-2004, 07:53 PM

I voted for Taylor. He's gonna be a beast, I hope.

Phinehas · 04-30-2004, 01:11 PM

Although I think Washington will have a big impact at his position, it seems to me that Taylor, Barrow, and Griffin will have the biggest impact on the entire defensive system. Of those three, I see Taylor having more game-changing opportunities through interceptions, perhaps even running some back for TDs.

--Phin

Carnage · 04-30-2004, 01:36 PM

I agree that Taylor's impact will change games, but I am also grateful to have Michael Barrow. Our Linebackers were so undisiplined last year, hopefully Barrow's experience will compliment Arrington's wild side.

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-30-2004, 02:10 PM

anybody else curious as to who the "others" r that 4 people have voted for?

Ghost · 04-30-2004, 03:30 PM

I wonder if Brandon Noble qualifies as a "new" defender, since he hardly made it onto the field last year. The "others" might include Noble or one of the new CBs (Ralph Brown, Walt Harris), maybe even DT Joe Salave'a or LB Billy Strother.

Perhaps Gregg Williams qualifies as an "other" as well.

JoeRedskin · 04-30-2004, 03:45 PM

Well, my guy is not even in consideration thanks to an incredible screw-up by the front office....

ARMEGIS SPEARMAN - All-pro, all-world!!!

You just watch, someone will snap him up eventually, THEN we'll be sorry!!!

daddio3 · 05-02-2004, 07:33 PM

Barrow is the kind of vocal and experienced vet we need. But don't ignore Walt Harris or Shawn Springs; these guys bring the kind of work ethic Taylor and even Arrington can certainly use, especially in transition to a brand spanking new defense

View Poll Results: Which new defender will have the most impact in '04?
Taylor	48	55.81%
Springs	3	3.49%
Washington	14	16.28%
Daniels	0	0%
Barrow	10	11.63%
Griffin	7	8.14%
other	4	4.65%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

04-29-2004, 11:52 AM	#18
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Well I hope Griffin does, cause it is almost a given that the rest will perform well. Plus if he does with the other d-line it will make the d-backs that much easier. __________________ HTTR!

04-29-2004, 02:38 PM	#22
kingerock Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 49 Posts: 360	I voted for Griffin. I think with 6 NFC East games and very suspect running games for all of them, most teams wont run outside on Washington and Arrington, forcing them inside right into Griffin. On pass defense, when we bring a blitz from either the weak or strong side, the LBs are going to get double teamed leaving the middle suspect and a good DT to make some big plays inside. __________________ Redskins fan lost in Texas for 20 years. Need a ride to D.C.

04-30-2004, 03:30 PM	#27
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	I wonder if Brandon Noble qualifies as a "new" defender, since he hardly made it onto the field last year. The "others" might include Noble or one of the new CBs (Ralph Brown, Walt Harris), maybe even DT Joe Salave'a or LB Billy Strother. Perhaps Gregg Williams qualifies as an "other" as well. Last edited by Ghost; 04-30-2004 at 03:34 PM.

04-29-2004, 10:30 AM	#16
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	I have to agree Washington and Taylor are the most likely to have the highest impact on our D. But it would be best if DT Griffen and DE Daniels had the best year because it is our weakest position.

04-29-2004, 11:29 AM	#17
Winskins Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wheaton, MD Age: 41 Posts: 282	Although I believe that Washington is a talented player on the brink of a big year, I would still have to say that Taylor will make the strongest impact of any of the skin's new players. This is because a quick hardhitting safety can change the way the game is played. Wide receivers will start hearing footsteps and that can make them miss some catches that they would normally make. Furthermore, the opposing team's quarterback has to worry about this dart in secondary coming by and snatching the ball so he has to give an extra look or so before getting the ball off. I think the biggest impact of Washington coming here is the fact that he will be playing strong-side linebacker, therefore moving Lavar back to his natural position of weak-side linebacker. This should be huge, but Washington is not going to be making the sacks for Lavar (even though I envision him getting quite a few of his own) so I cannot vote him at the top of my list for imcoming impact players. *Lavar switching to weakside linebacker will benefit us in the following ways: 1) More sacks!!! (this is because he won't get blocked immediately as he does at the strongside position by tight ends. Rather, he will be going up against half backs and full backs and get more speed going, which will increase force, and allow him to run these blockers over) 2) More sacks!!! SORRY, BUT I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH!!

04-29-2004, 07:53 PM	#23
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I voted for Taylor. He's gonna be a beast, I hope.

04-30-2004, 01:11 PM	#24
Phinehas Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 106	Although I think Washington will have a big impact at his position, it seems to me that Taylor, Barrow, and Griffin will have the biggest impact on the entire defensive system. Of those three, I see Taylor having more game-changing opportunities through interceptions, perhaps even running some back for TDs. --Phin

04-30-2004, 01:36 PM	#25
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	I agree that Taylor's impact will change games, but I am also grateful to have Michael Barrow. Our Linebackers were so undisiplined last year, hopefully Barrow's experience will compliment Arrington's wild side.

04-30-2004, 02:10 PM	#26
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	anybody else curious as to who the "others" r that 4 people have voted for?

04-30-2004, 03:45 PM	#28
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Well, my guy is not even in consideration thanks to an incredible screw-up by the front office.... ARMEGIS SPEARMAN - All-pro, all-world!!! You just watch, someone will snap him up eventually, THEN we'll be sorry!!!

05-02-2004, 07:33 PM	#29
daddio3 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Bern, NC Age: 56 Posts: 8	Barrow is the kind of vocal and experienced vet we need. But don't ignore Walt Harris or Shawn Springs; these guys bring the kind of work ethic Taylor and even Arrington can certainly use, especially in transition to a brand spanking new defense

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