The all things Dan Snyder thread

[mooby]

I give up. I will be honest, I wasn't around for those "professionally run" years. If you guys want to continue the "we weren't that bad, despite having 4-12 and 3-13 seasons immediately after a playoff season" circle jerk feel free. Just don't be talking about 20 years of mediocrity since apparently we were in the midst of a golden age before Snyder showed up.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

I give up. I will be honest, I wasn't around for those "professionally run" years. If you guys want to continue the "we weren't that bad, despite having 4-12 and 3-13 seasons immediately after a playoff season" circle jerk feel free. Just don't be talking about 20 years of mediocrity since apparently we were in the midst of a golden age before Snyder showed up.

I'm with you. We were professionally run through the '90's and Casserly was very good. But even Casserly had some clunkers and, on the whole, we were never all that much through the '90's. When Gibbs 1.0 ended, things got darker.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by mooby

I give up. I will be honest, I wasn't around for those "professionally run" years. If you guys want to continue the "we weren't that bad, despite having 4-12 and 3-13 seasons immediately after a playoff season" circle jerk feel free. Just don't be talking about 20 years of mediocrity since apparently we were in the midst of a golden age before Snyder showed up.

Nobody said those seasons weren't bad. They were bad. The worst I had ever had to deal with being a Redskins fan. But even still, the team was professionally ran. When Joe Gibbs took the Redskins to that last Super Bowl, that team wasn't very young. By the time we got to '93, those guys either retired or left in the new era of free agency. Probably felt it was a good time to get out since Gibbs had just retired. And I don't think Richie Pettibon really had it in him in terms of strength and knowledge to help rebuild the Redskins. While he still had several parts left over from their last Super Bowl run, he still had a team that was not as talented even from the previous year. And when Norv Turner arrived the year after that, the team was pretty much gutted with only Darrell Green and Brian Mitchell (that I can remember) left over from those Super Bowl years. Jim Lachey might have still been there, but the point I'm making is, those two awful seasons were a sign of an aging team at the end of their rope and a complete purge the following season. Hence, the 4-12 and 3-13 seasons.

But, I said all of that to make a point that from '94 on, save for that '97 season, the Redskins really looked like they were just a few pieces away from being a perennial playoff team. At least a solid 10-6 team. A Marty Schottenheimer working with that talent would have probably been enough to have made those seasons playoff seasons. Anyway, looking back on it, and admittedly, a few years removed sometimes makes you forget the worst of it, I don't remember any of those teams ever being the joke like the teams have been in recent years. The turmoil, the "I just do this to get a paycheck" type of play on field, the media junk. Yes, I remember Westbrook beating up Davis, but other than that, this present era of the franchise is probably the worst I've ever been a part of. At least in the 90's, you always felt you had a chance and had hope. I don't feel that way at all now.