Arrington start?

EternalEnigma21 · 10-02-2005, 05:09 PM

I dont know but this is Fing rediculous. I'm extatic that we won and I really like what I saw from the offense today, but not having arrington back there is a major hinderance. He's the best linebacker we've got and one of the best in the league, and he's not even the backup pass rusher. You're telling me Chris Clemons is better than Lavar Arrington?? I don't understand it and I don't like it. If they're trying to save money by keeping him healthy for a trade (my opinion), I'm gonna be severely disappointed. Even with a great D (not quite as good as last year from what I've seen) we dont make big plays. Thats because we dont have big playmakers on the field. Many teams are opening up the underneath routes because they want to stay away from ST & co. to avoid the big play and they're throwing at clemons, marshall, and holdman. I think LA makes teams game plan differently and gives us the opportunity to open up games.

mooby · 10-02-2005, 05:33 PM

as do i. i want to see more packages suited for him because he's too good to be benched. i don't know what the huge deal is, why are they showing so much hate towards him?

saden1 · 10-02-2005, 05:40 PM

LaVar is losing a lot of incentive money sitting out. If this keeps up I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade before the trade deadline or at the end of the season.

STPainmaker · 10-02-2005, 05:53 PM

I agree with the idea that on third and long this guy has to be in there. I mean let him dance around the line of scrimmage on third and long the line audibles will be going crazy to pick him up. I can't understand it he is the fastest LB, and very strong. He is suited for a blitzing "D". If this isn't injury related we need to see if Lavar can get it done on the field. WTF Grg Williams?????

redrock-skins · 10-02-2005, 06:12 PM

The defense could have used his help in the 2nd half today. Good thing we got the ball first or we may have lost the way Seattle was moving the ball on us.

Hopefully we get some explanation really soon abut this.

Beemnseven · 10-02-2005, 08:32 PM

Maybe they just don't want to take the risk of sending him back in too early.

You know what happened the last time they did that -- Arrington made an issue out of it with the media.

The Skins are damned if they play him, and damned if they don't.

Who cares. We're winning without him, and that's all that matters right now. If, God forbid Marcus Washington, Warrick Holdman, or Lemar Marshall goes down to injury, that's one hell of a backup player we have waiting.

wolfeskins · 10-02-2005, 08:54 PM

lavar and patrick ramsey could both be traded this off season, that could be how we get our first round pick back, which we used to get jason campbell.

SUNRA · 10-02-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

lavar and patrick ramsey could both be traded this off season, that could be how we get our first round pick back, which we used to get jason campbell.

I was discussing this point with a friend of mine tonight. Lavar's performance has not gotten particularly better and some team would certainly give up a first round draft pick because he would essentially be healthy going into the offseason. Holdman has played good enough to keep his position and Arrington has made a difference when he's on the field. Ramsey and Arrington are the first on the chopping block. I see Gibbs going after a young DT and big TE on the offseason.

Daseal · 10-02-2005, 10:04 PM

I thought that the reporters at the game said that he doesnt fit into many packages.

Is it true that maybe he simply can't buy into a scheme? I've always gotten the vibe that It's all about LaVar from him. He wants to freelance, he wants to be a star, he wants to get more for his jerseys than any other player. While LaVar makes some huge plays he can often be caught out of position which can really hurt our team. I feel Greg Williams knows best what to do with him and if he doesn't fit in, oh well.

I also seriously doubt this is a trade scheme. I'm no crazy cannuck but I don't think a trade is even POSSIBLE with his contract anytime within the next five years.

BigSKINBauer · 10-02-2005, 10:12 PM

exactly we can't trade him and we can't use him. Is it possible for him to give back our cap penalty and us be able to trade him??? also he does have that thing in his new contract about 2 Probowls that he could leave. Now we wouldn't have to pay the cap penalty if he opts to leave, but the only problem is he has to play before he makes the probowl

5RINGS · 10-02-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

exactly we can't trade him and we can't use him. Is it possible for him to give back our cap penalty and us be able to trade him??? also he does have that thing in his new contract about 2 Probowls that he could leave. Now we wouldn't have to pay the cap penalty if he opts to leave, but the only problem is he has to play before he makes the probowl

Please trade him to Dallas!!!! I don't know why he doesn't buy into Greg Williams scheme, but he can PLAY, no doubt. You will regret getting rid of him, but if he just won't fit into a system that is doing great then......

skinsguy · 10-02-2005, 10:35 PM

The defense was really good without Lavar last year, and continues to play really well this year because they're playing as a team and not allowing one or two stars to get what is theirs..so to speak! I do want Lavar back in there..I think he's a special player, but we are doing quite well without him so far.

BigSKINBauer · 10-02-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Please trade him to Dallas!!!! I don't know why he doesn't buy into Greg Williams scheme, but he can PLAY, no doubt. You will regret getting rid of him, but if he just won't fit into a system that is doing great then......

tell big JJ to pay for his cap penalty and i'll be all for it. But who do we want from you....

skinsfan0201 · 10-02-2005, 11:10 PM

I think everyone goes through their struggles, including Arrington. He just has to realize that he is part of a team and not just an individual component. I love Lavar, but I am a little disappointed in what appears to be a little bit of selfishness. I hope everything works out because the team needs the type of emotional leadership that he provides.

Lavar needs to be a team player regardless of the circumstances and what he has gone through in the past.

HailSkins81 · 10-03-2005, 12:18 AM

The defense has been pretty solid without Lavar, but I think we miss the turnovers and game changing ability he brings when he steps on the field.

In an interview with Greg Williams on the Skins website, he said he doesn't draft people or get trades to fit in to any particular scheme. He said he adapts to whoever he has on the field. So, I am confused as to why they wouldn't think Lavar would fit in.

10-02-2005, 05:09 PM	#16
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Arrington start? I dont know but this is Fing rediculous. I'm extatic that we won and I really like what I saw from the offense today, but not having arrington back there is a major hinderance. He's the best linebacker we've got and one of the best in the league, and he's not even the backup pass rusher. You're telling me Chris Clemons is better than Lavar Arrington?? I don't understand it and I don't like it. If they're trying to save money by keeping him healthy for a trade (my opinion), I'm gonna be severely disappointed. Even with a great D (not quite as good as last year from what I've seen) we dont make big plays. Thats because we dont have big playmakers on the field. Many teams are opening up the underneath routes because they want to stay away from ST & co. to avoid the big play and they're throwing at clemons, marshall, and holdman. I think LA makes teams game plan differently and gives us the opportunity to open up games.

10-02-2005, 05:33 PM	#17
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Arrington start? as do i. i want to see more packages suited for him because he's too good to be benched. i don't know what the huge deal is, why are they showing so much hate towards him? __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-02-2005, 05:40 PM	#18
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Arrington start? LaVar is losing a lot of incentive money sitting out. If this keeps up I wouldn't be surprised if he asks for a trade before the trade deadline or at the end of the season. Last edited by saden1; 10-02-2005 at 06:22 PM.

10-02-2005, 05:53 PM	#19
STPainmaker Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 524	Re: Arrington start? I agree with the idea that on third and long this guy has to be in there. I mean let him dance around the line of scrimmage on third and long the line audibles will be going crazy to pick him up. I can't understand it he is the fastest LB, and very strong. He is suited for a blitzing "D". If this isn't injury related we need to see if Lavar can get it done on the field. WTF Grg Williams????? __________________ REDSKINS FOR LIFE BEEETCH!!!!

10-02-2005, 06:12 PM	#20
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	Re: Arrington start? The defense could have used his help in the 2nd half today. Good thing we got the ball first or we may have lost the way Seattle was moving the ball on us. Hopefully we get some explanation really soon abut this.

10-02-2005, 08:32 PM	#21
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: Arrington start? Maybe they just don't want to take the risk of sending him back in too early. You know what happened the last time they did that -- Arrington made an issue out of it with the media. The Skins are damned if they play him, and damned if they don't. Who cares. We're winning without him, and that's all that matters right now. If, God forbid Marcus Washington, Warrick Holdman, or Lemar Marshall goes down to injury, that's one hell of a backup player we have waiting.

10-02-2005, 08:54 PM	#22
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Arrington start? lavar and patrick ramsey could both be traded this off season, that could be how we get our first round pick back, which we used to get jason campbell. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

10-02-2005, 10:04 PM	#24
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Arrington start? I thought that the reporters at the game said that he doesnt fit into many packages. Is it true that maybe he simply can't buy into a scheme? I've always gotten the vibe that It's all about LaVar from him. He wants to freelance, he wants to be a star, he wants to get more for his jerseys than any other player. While LaVar makes some huge plays he can often be caught out of position which can really hurt our team. I feel Greg Williams knows best what to do with him and if he doesn't fit in, oh well. I also seriously doubt this is a trade scheme. I'm no crazy cannuck but I don't think a trade is even POSSIBLE with his contract anytime within the next five years. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-02-2005, 10:12 PM	#25
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Arrington start? exactly we can't trade him and we can't use him. Is it possible for him to give back our cap penalty and us be able to trade him??? also he does have that thing in his new contract about 2 Probowls that he could leave. Now we wouldn't have to pay the cap penalty if he opts to leave, but the only problem is he has to play before he makes the probowl

10-02-2005, 10:35 PM	#27
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Arrington start? The defense was really good without Lavar last year, and continues to play really well this year because they're playing as a team and not allowing one or two stars to get what is theirs..so to speak! I do want Lavar back in there..I think he's a special player, but we are doing quite well without him so far. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-02-2005, 11:10 PM	#29
skinsfan0201 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Falls Church, VA Age: 46 Posts: 234	Re: Arrington start? I think everyone goes through their struggles, including Arrington. He just has to realize that he is part of a team and not just an individual component. I love Lavar, but I am a little disappointed in what appears to be a little bit of selfishness. I hope everything works out because the team needs the type of emotional leadership that he provides. Lavar needs to be a team player regardless of the circumstances and what he has gone through in the past.

10-03-2005, 12:18 AM	#30
HailSkins81 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Re: Arrington start? The defense has been pretty solid without Lavar, but I think we miss the turnovers and game changing ability he brings when he steps on the field. In an interview with Greg Williams on the Skins website, he said he doesn't draft people or get trades to fit in to any particular scheme. He said he adapts to whoever he has on the field. So, I am confused as to why they wouldn't think Lavar would fit in.

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