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Old 05-11-2015, 08:38 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins Off Season things.

espn reporter john keim posted an answer about projected OL startin lineup in response to a reader question also stating "ask me again in august after we've seen them play" and then rotoworld decided to post it as a factual piece.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:56 AM   #2
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espn reporter john keim posted an answer about projected OL startin lineup in response to a reader question also stating "ask me again in august after we've seen them play" and then rotoworld decided to post it as a factual piece.
Rotoworld did use the words "believes" and "could be", indicating that it's not a report but instead relaying an opinion.

Have to read closely folks.
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:59 PM   #3
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Rotoworld did use the words "believes" and "could be", indicating that it's not a report but instead relaying an opinion.

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A 2 day old blog opinion of a beat writer does not meet my opinion of breaking news. sorry, but it really is a worthless story.

guy makes guess then immediately hedges, news at 10.
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A 2 day old blog opinion of a beat writer does not meet my opinion of breaking news. sorry, but it really is a worthless story.

guy makes guess then immediately hedges, news at 10.
OK, now you've annoyed me, since I am the one who posted the article. First, the title of this thread is "Redskins Offseason Things". That's "things", not "breaking news". Also, everybody doesn't read everything on the internet each day.

I noticed that there was some interest in what I posted - namely that Keim was told by a source that the coaching staff believes Long "progressed well during the year," and will be a factor this season. Keim was apparently also told that Long will get every opportunity to unseat Chester. I'm pretty sure that Keim didn't just imagine this information.

The reason this has some significance to me is that it had had earlier been posted here that the previous OL coach may have shown favoritism towards Chester, which implied that Long didn't get a fair shot to win the job last season. So, I'm thinking that with a new OL coach and a new emphasis on power running, backed up by what Keim was told, the OL might be improved by inserting Long as the starter at RG. That's good (old) news, right?
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OK, now you've annoyed me, since I am the one who posted the article. First, the title of this thread is "Redskins Offseason Things". That's "things", not "breaking news". Also, everybody doesn't read everything on the internet each day.

I noticed that there was some interest in what I posted - namely that Keim was told by a source that the coaching staff believes Long "progressed well during the year," and will be a factor this season. Keim was apparently also told that Long will get every opportunity to unseat Chester. I'm pretty sure that Keim didn't just imagine this information.

The reason this has some significance to me is that it had had earlier been posted here that the previous OL coach may have shown favoritism towards Chester, which implied that Long didn't get a fair shot to win the job last season. So, I'm thinking that with a new OL coach and a new emphasis on power running, backed up by what Keim was told, the OL might be improved by inserting Long as the starter at RG. That's good (old) news, right?
Point taken. But that point still isn't incredibly impactful. I think we were always under the assumption that the offensive line jobs would be up for competition in training camp. And training camp, as we all know, is where the competition takes place.

Keim needs to drive clicks to his blog so he'll put out what he's heard and I do like to keep updated on it. But I also like to keep in mind that the real news that matters won't come out until we're deep into training camp.

Long V Chester won't play itself out till August, so this is kind of a 'these aren't the droids you're looking for, move along' kind of thing.

It's not your fault, you're posting the latest and that's always good to read. I'd want you to keep doing it, in fact. We're just adding our interpretation of the value of that information, that's all.
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A 2 day old blog opinion of a beat writer does not meet my opinion of breaking news. sorry, but it really is a worthless story.

guy makes guess then immediately hedges, news at 10.
It isn't a big deal, but it isn't worthless either. Keim is generally a straight shooter and an extremely good beat writer.

I can't recall an instance where he randomly threw out wild rumors out to generate clicks; unlike Chris Russell.

Given the source, his track record, and the access he has to people that matter, Keim's opinions matter. How much they matter varies depending on the subject.

Additionally, the reason the opinions of the coaches matter at this point is because someone has to take the reps with the 1st team. It isn't the be all end all, but the guy taking the 1st team snaps definitely has an advantage at winning the job.
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