Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

WTF's wrong with you? Scott in his press conferences....stated...in plain language. "Robert has To much potential....To much upside (not to mention TO much invested) to NOT BE absolutely sure he cannot do it before we kick him to the curb" paraphrasing a bit
AND....KC or Colt may prove to be the man (God how I wish they would). But that Sure As Hell has not been the case to date....
You watched last year right?

Yeah,did you? Have you seen this preseason?


McCoy, Cousins continue to out-play RG3

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 21, 2015, 3:43 PM EDT
Kirk Cousins, Rashad Ross
AP
If Washington’s quarterback depth chart were determined by on-field performance, Robert Griffin III would be firmly entrenched at third string.

Although coach Jay Gruden insisted after Thursday’s preseason game against the Lions that Griffin will remain the starter, that game showed once again what we’ve seen throughout Gruden’s tenure as Washington’s coach: Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins are simply playing better football than Griffin.

So far this preseason, McCoy has a 131.6 passer rating and has led Washington’s offense on three touchdown drives. Cousins has a 118.3 passer rating and has also led Washington’s offense on three touchdown drives. Griffin has a 54.6 passer rating, and Washington has yet to score a touchdown with Griffin on the field.

You can argue that the preseason is too small a sample size to draw any conclusions, and that Griffin is playing against better defensive players than Cousins and McCoy are. But Griffin’s sub-par performance goes beyond just this year’s preseason. Last year Griffin started seven games, Cousins started five and McCoy started four. Washington wasn’t a particularly good team no matter who was starting, but according to ESPN’s QBR system, which combines both statistics and film study into one number on a 0-100 scale, Griffin was easily the worst of the three. McCoy had a 46.9 QBR, Cousins had a 46.5 QBR and Griffin had a 33.5 QBR. The Football Outsiders DVOA system, which uses play-by-play data to assess quarterbacks, similarly had Griffin as by far the worst of Washington’s three quarterbacks.

Given all that, it’s surprising that Gruden is so adamant that Griffin will continue to start. Perhaps Gruden is still intrigued by the great promise Griffin showed in his rookie season. Perhaps Dan Snyder has told Gruden to give Griffin a chance. Perhaps Gruden just doesn’t think McCoy and Cousins are legitimate NFL starters.

But at some point, on-field results have to matter. And Griffin simply isn’t getting results.

[30gut]

Griffin may very well be done as the starting QB here sooner rather then later. And personally I think its a certainty at some point.

BUTits not going (knowing this staff 'should not' is probably more accurate) to stem from his play in the Lions game. Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.

I mean seriously, a referendum after 5 pass attempts? Never mind the game situations (Kurt Warner diagnoses why Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is struggling - NFL Videos) but 5 passes and Griffin is done? C'mon, lets be serious.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Griffin may very well be done as the starting QB here sooner rather then later. And personally I think its a certainty at some point.

BUTits not going (knowing this staff 'should not' is probably more accurate) to stem from his play in the Lions game. Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.

I mean seriously, a referendum after 5 pass attempts? Never mind the game situations (Kurt Warner diagnoses why Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is struggling - NFL Videos) but 5 passes and Griffin is done? C'mon, lets be serious.

Good point.

It's definitely knee-jerk time right now. I still say the Detroit game was mostly on the OL and it's hard to take much real value from it. Yes the fumbles are 100% on him, but when you're getting hit repeatedly in 3 seconds or less, that's the OL's problem.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.

I don't think the Lions game proved anything about RGIII; however, I also don't think he's a fit for this offense. Something has to change for him to be successful here. By that, I mean either the offense or the HC (if the HC doesn't change the offense to feature Robert's strengths as a player).

Something in the back of my mind keeps telling me that the offense we run in the regular season will be a surprise to fans and opponents alike. It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well. Or I could be just kidding myself.

[Alvin Walton]

I dont think it matters how could Griffin can be.
Hes going to get hurt soon enough and I wont be surprised if Cousins plays most of the season.
I'm already looking at QBs for next years draft.......

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't think the Lions game proved anything about RGIII; however, I also don't think he's a fit for this offense. Something has to change for him to be successful here. By that, I mean either the offense or the HC (if the HC doesn't change the offense to feature Robert's strengths as a player).

Something in the back of my mind keeps telling me that the offense we run in the regular season will be a surprise to fans and opponents alike. It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well. Or I could be just kidding myself.

I have played that mental game all the way back to 2006 with JGibbs and Al Saunders. I remember going to the opener against Minnesota thinking we were going to come out and shock the Vikings.

I don't have it in me to believe that the Skins have that type of creativity in them anymore. What we are is all on display. And sadly that ain't much.

Sent from my S6 Edge

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well.

Which is what?

He would have to improve to run read option as well as Nick Foles did last year.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Which is what?

He would have to improve to run read option as well as Nick Foles did last year.

Not sure if serious.