Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

[Coff]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What we saw yesterday was Step 1 in the process of team building. Scot started with the lines, as he should, and they played well. Secondly, there were a number of our 2015 draft picks who played and all they did OK, as far as I could tell.

I said I would be satisfied as long as we played hard and progressed as a team. We did those things yesterday and, so far, I'm satisfied.

There is no doubt that we have a long way to go in some areas and it's going to take two more FA classes, two more draft classes, and a couple other moves of opportunity to become as competitive as we'd all like to be.

Keeping Scot is absolutely critical to our future success. I also want to keep Jay Gruden. He is competent, IMO, and I do not want the offensive players to have to learn another system. I want this system to become automatic to them so we can gain the advantage of having the utmost efficiency in executing our plays.

I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.

I'm guessing I'm in the minority. I've seen posts on this very thread that have said this team is a 6 win team, this team is no better than an 8 win team, and that this team could win 7 games. I'm on a completely different planet with this team. They'll win between 2-4 games because they're a 2-4 win team. The difference between winning three games versus eight games in this league is not about talent. It's about all the things that the culture of this team eschews. A headline in the post today read "Redskins Continue to Make an Art Form of Almost." That's what they do; that's what they've been doing for years, and it's what they did yesterday.

8 win teams don't routinely surrender special teams touchdowns, they don't routinely commit turnovers on critical drives, they don't commit 6 penalties in a string of 8 plays. Yesterday, the Skins did everything they always do. No progression there, in my opinion.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Coff

I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.

I think you may be fooling yourself if you think we have the talent to be a winner. We just don't. I said we are on Step 1 because we have a long way to go.

The progress I saw yesterday was specific to the physical play of the OL and DL, with a nod to the play of the rookies. I was encouraged by yesterday's game because Scot's primary focus this season was on improving the talent on both lines, which I think he has done. We ran the ball and we stopped the run. Those two things are fundamental to success in football. Nevertheless, there is still much work to be done to improve the personnel on this team.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Coff

I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.

I'm guessing I'm in the minority. I've seen posts on this very thread that have said this team is a 6 win team, this team is no better than an 8 win team, and that this team could win 7 games. I'm on a completely different planet with this team. They'll win between 2-4 games because they're a 2-4 win team. The difference between winning three games versus eight games in this league is not about talent. It's about all the things that the culture of this team eschews. A headline in the post today read "Redskins Continue to Make an Art Form of Almost." That's what they do; that's what they've been doing for years, and it's what they did yesterday.

8 win teams don't routinely surrender special teams touchdowns, they don't routinely commit turnovers on critical drives, they don't commit 6 penalties in a string of 8 plays. Yesterday, the Skins did everything they always do. No progression there, in my opinion.

This is a 4-6 win team and the fanbase needs to deal with it. We are a few quality drafts away, as well as a couple free agents. The depth is too thin and you saw when Hall went down Miami went right after Amerson. That was just one example. We can't afford to loose anyone else right now.

I saw plenty of progression. What I really liked was a true commitment to the run game. I think the question is will ownership stay patient enough with Gruden as L's pile up.