Redskins v. Jets Gameday Thread

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Well I would say that they have a superior running game, better wide receiver's, and maybe even a better QB.

I did not see the game, but the highlight of Brandon Marshalls catch was incredible. It was bad throw that turned into a long TD.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

You have seen enough of these QB's to know they will be better than KC?

Mariota has played 5 games.

Bortles and Carr have played less than two years.

I have no issues with you preferring Tannehull over KC. I would not make the trade. I see him as a wash. Plus i would not want the 6 year, $96 million extension, with $21.5 million guaranteed contract.

KC played a bad game behind an offensive line that had a collective 17 starts between all five of them. His top receiver is out, he is on the 4th string TE, has a rookie for slot receiver and your 3rd down back leaves the game in the first quarter.

Omaha you are my guy but u can't blame the line today. Kc has time to throw and read the defense he just can't do it. We all hate on robert for making bad plays and he does no doubt but kirk ain't any better

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

So Cousins is a developmental quarterback? Gruden benched him last season for making the same reckless decisions....you start McCoy simply because he gives the offense a better chance to succeed as he showed last year .....

I think that is a fair enough argument but I think last year was a chance for Scot and Jay to evaluate both personnel and staff. But if McCoy gives them the best to succeed why isn't he starting? Do you think Jay has an agenda against him? Can't coach both?

[skinsfan69]

We have the same record as the Seahawks.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Omaha you are my guy but u can't blame the line today. Kc has time to throw and read the defense he just can't do it. We all hate on robert for making bad plays and he does no doubt but kirk ain't any better

I am not trying to blame the o-line for KCs bad plays. I am trying to point out that they are missing a lot of talent around him. (I count 9 starters plus ST talent).

Would the running game have been better with the starting o-line? Maybe/maybe not. If the running game was better, would the play action pass be better, maybe/maybe not. You can't put 8 or 9 in the box when Djax is on the field because he demands help from the safety. However, The Jets have an incredible secondary. Revis may have been able to cover Djax.

I see no value in McCoy or RG3 starting. I believe you ride this year out and see what you have with KC. If he doesn't perform you have a top 5 draft pick. If he performs and they are an 8 - 8 team, you have something to build on. I see a difference between this years team, and the last two years. They have been in all but two games.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

I am not trying to blame the o-line for KCs bad plays. I am trying to point out that they are missing a lot of talent around him. (I count 9 starters plus ST talent).

Would the running game have been better with the starting o-line? Maybe/maybe not. If the running game was better, would the play action pass be better, maybe/maybe not. You can't put 8 or 9 in the box when Djax is on the field because he demands help from the safety. However, The Jets have an incredible secondary. Revis may have been able to cover Djax.

I see no value in McCoy or RG3 starting. I believe you ride this year out and see what you have with KC. If he doesn't perform you have a top 5 draft pick. If he performs and they are an 8 - 8 team, you have something to build on. I see a difference between this years team, and the last two years. They have been in all but two games.

If McCoy can make the easy ass throws that Cousins cannot do, then I see value in starting him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What is Gruden suppose to do? He can't wave a majic wan and get all his players healthy. We are short on talent with everyone healthy. When players start going down like flies it's going to hurt us more. We were competitive for a good part of the game. We all need to remember that this is still a rebuild. The team sucks because of moves that were made BEFORE Gruden got here. We need to stay the course, hopefully get some guys back and win a few games, starting next week.

Ive been a big Gruden defender but the third quarter beat downs are becoming hard to ignore. We are either losing or almost losing every single game in the third quarter. That is 100 % a coaching thing. This has nothing to do with the injuries.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We have the same record as the Seahawks.

SUPERBOWL!

[Buffalo Bob]

That was a team loss, other than the place kicker, everyone could have played better. Bad throws, dropped balls, poor blocking, poor tackling, blown coverages,etc,etc. Since it was another game where the Redskins
fall apart in the second half we can throw in poor coaching. Constantly getting lit up in the 3rd quarter means the coaches on the other side are
outsmarting you on the halftime adjustments.

[calia]

Our third quarters are really inexplicably bad. Never seen anything like it.


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If McCoy can make the easy ass throws that Cousins cannot do, then I see value in starting him.

It was pretty windy up there today. Not a chance McCoy could have played well in those conditions.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Ive been a big Gruden defender but the third quarter beat downs are becoming hard to ignore. We are either losing or almost losing every single game in the third quarter. That is 100 % a coaching thing. This has nothing to do with the injuries.

IDK..not letting Gruden off the hook completely, in the end he's judged by his record. Just seems more like a talent issue.

[OmahaRedskins]

A friend IMed me this evening and asked me my thoughts on the rumor of Jay getting fired during the buy week and Bill C taking over.

Has anybody seen this rumor?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

A friend IMed me this evening and asked me my thoughts on the rumor of Jay getting fired during the buy week and Bill C taking over.

Has anybody seen this rumor?

Sounds like a bad rumor to me.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

A friend IMed me this evening and asked me my thoughts on the rumor of Jay getting fired during the buy week and Bill C taking over.

Has anybody seen this rumor?

Been talked about since Callahan been hired.

Folks, this getting "out coached in the second half" thing didn't suddenly happen, it's been a symptom of the Jay gruden era since day one.