Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Sure, no one will trade for him with the current $16mil price tag.

Can the 5th year option be altered to complete a trade?

If all 3 parties agree? Lets say X wants him and doesn't want to compete with other teams and is willing to send us a 7th to get Griffin and he wants to go?

That is a lot of ifs. I imagine that could be done, but (a) why would Robert want to help us, (b) why would a team what he wants to go to pay for him instead of waiting until he is cut.

We have NO leverage. I hope he ends up in the AFC, but I have a hunch he is going to end up in Dallas.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Way too early mock from: First-Pick.com

Round 1 Pick 21: A'Shawn Robinson, DT/DE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 21: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 21: Chris Jones, DT/DE, Mississippi State (A)
Round 4 Pick 21: Kevon Seymour, CB, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Deiondre' Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (A)
Round 6 Pick 12: Evan Boehm, C, Missouri (B+)
Round 7 Pick 9: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (A+)
Round 7 Pick 21: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A+)

That mock blows monkey ass.
Wheres the safety?
Wheres the TE?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

That mock blows monkey ass.
Wheres the safety?
Wheres the TE?

Thank you. That's let's me know it was a good draft.

The S and TE would have been reaches the way the draft unfolded and I'm a BPA guy I don't reach.

[SFREDSKIN]

This would great if it did happen.

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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

That mock blows monkey ass.
Wheres the safety?
Wheres the TE?

Don't need a TE. We have Reed and we have Paul coming back. No reason to draft a TE. Our biggest issues are on the defense by far.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Don't need a TE. We have Reed and we have Paul coming back. No reason to draft a TE. Our biggest issues are on the defense by far.

We know the injury history of Reed and now Paul is coming off a major ankle injury. We also witnessed a major problem with the run game with a non blocking TE a contributing factor.

While I don't think TE is say a top 3 round pick...certainly taking one to develop, play special teams wouldn't be a bad pick

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Way too early mock from: First-Pick.com

Round 1 Pick 21: A'Shawn Robinson, DT/DE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 21: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 21: Chris Jones, DT/DE, Mississippi State (A)
Round 4 Pick 21: Kevon Seymour, CB, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Deiondre' Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (A)
Round 6 Pick 12: Evan Boehm, C, Missouri (B+)
Round 7 Pick 9: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford (A+)
Round 7 Pick 21: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A+)

The problem with that online draft is that it presents the user with some unlikely scenarios and he feels compelled to take advantage of them. I really don't see either Robinson or Thomas being there for us in the first two rounds.

I like your picks of Boehm and Hogan in the 6th and 7th rounds, respectively. If those two were to fall to those rounds, I'd be pleased to have them.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Don't need a TE. We have Reed and we have Paul coming back. No reason to draft a TE. Our biggest issues are on the defense by far.

Paul had a pretty bad break, who knows how solid he will be next year.
He was a good player but no Mark Bavaro.
Tight ends are the new #1s.
I'll bet my left nut we take one before the seventh pick.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Paul had a pretty bad break, who knows how solid he will be next year.
He was a good player but no Mark Bavaro.
Tight ends are the new #1s.
I'll bet my left nut we take one before the seventh pick.

I'll bet your right nut we'll take one.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Don't need a TE. We have Reed and we have Paul coming back. No reason to draft a TE. Our biggest issues are on the defense by far.

Amazing that we're on year 2 of the McC regime and people still don't realize he doesn't draft for need. Let me put it like this: If you need a safety but you scouted all of the safeties and decided they were either overvalued (i.e. teams will be reaching for them) or none of them were that good why would you take one? Sure, maybe your plan of action is to grab a guy in FA or trade for one but those both fall through, so then maybe you grab one in the later rounds as some backup insurance, but that would be a last case, desperate scenario in case all your better options fall through.

Now on the flip side, this tight end class might be one of the best in history, but you already have a baller at TE and you have more needs so you don't want to waste a pick. If you haven't realized by now that McC would rather grab a TE that he likes vs. a safety he's not sold on, then you apparently haven't done your research on McC. From day one he's said he drafts BPA. Occasionally we'll get lucky and the BPA will fill a need, but if it doesn't I have no reason to be concerned. Not a single member of any draft class is guaranteed to give you equal returns based on draft position. So if it's a crapshoot you might as well pick the guy you think has the best chance to succeed long term. I trust McC's player evaluations, so I have complete faith in him. If he decides to go punter with the first rounder, I have complete confidence that he's done his homework and has decided that's the best player to draft.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'll bet your right nut we'll take one.

People forget about Carrier as well. Was a solid run blocker

[SFREDSKIN]

Redskins 2016 Top Needs and Early Big Board - Hogs Haven

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Redskins 2016 Top Needs and Early Big Board - Hogs Haven

Very good points in the article...hard to argue and the draft grade round seem fairly accurate. But the decisions along the DLine and WR positions loom large before the draft...You know our WR and DLine group as a whole were actually fairly decent, but both areas are older groups. To leave out RB is very poor.

Garcon, had a bounce back season and played extremely well after the first six games of the season. Crowder is solidified in the slot. Ryan Grant and Andre Roberts aren't good WRs. Ryan Grant...potential has worn out. Ross much more effective.

Pot Roast played at a high level after the bye. Hatcher and Ricky Jean were effective at DE.

Decisions, decisions for McC for those 2 personnel groups.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Redskins 2016 Top Needs and Early Big Board - Hogs Haven

I like that list of needs but where is the pass rusher? Galette may or may not be that guy. Preston Smith looks good, but we need a pass rusher more than anything imo.

[Irrefutable]

lets start with possible free-agent signings first, then we can do mock drafts

I think they can get a veteran center, TE, S and maybe more in free agency