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Old 01-25-2016, 09:45 AM   #1
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Senior Bowl 2016



Fellows draftniks.......Senior Bowl is here!

We've had the warm-up bowl games Collegiate/Shriners now its time for the big one, where +70% get drafted.

Link to the official site:

Official Web Site of the Senior Bowl : Mobile, Alabama
You can find rosters w/ official height/weights and such


Pro Football Focus Senior Bowl Coverage:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football/




This year ESPN has the practice coverage on Weds & Thurs.

NFLN will recap the practices Tues-Thurs


WaPo players to watch:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-senior-bowl/

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Old 01-25-2016, 10:08 AM   #2
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Re: Senior Bowl 2016

Does McC typically go to this?
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Old 01-25-2016, 10:54 AM   #3
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Wash Post link blocked, who are the 10 players to watch ?
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Miles Killebrew

I like this kid in the 3rd or 4th.
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Old 01-25-2016, 10:21 PM   #5
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Miles Killebrew

I like this kid in the 3rd or 4th.
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I was just discussing him today with another draftnik. Killebrew certainly has an NFL physical skillset. Height-weight-speed he looks the part.

Have you watched him on tape yet? (I watched the Sam Houston game, interested in your take if you watched him)

Listening to the recent 'hype' I've heard him compared to Kam Chancellor and Deone Buc. I 'scouted' D Buc heavily....


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Deone Bucannon vs Stanford
35 plays

24 plus (+3 cov w/interception) (...@ 2:58 jacks the RT back on 4th and 1; 4:42 nice read and react for interception Cover 2)

2 minus (penalty)

Overal from this game: Hit with consistent pop. Brings arms. Consistent good pursuit paths/finding the ball carrier. Consistently squares up. Drive through to finish tackles. attacked blockers. Plays with high motor.Aggressive at point of impact. Very willing tackler. Good coverage awareness. Plays half field SAF.

Has controlled movement efficient movement.
Kille is certainly one to watch at the Senior Bowl though, if he's anything like D. Buc he'll be laying the lumber.

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Old 01-26-2016, 02:44 PM   #6
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Miles Killebrew | Draft Breakdown

Link from draftbreakdown that has a player game cut-ups.
For Miles they have Sam Houston and Portland State.

2016 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Results | Draft Breakdown

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Miles Killebrew
6'1--219

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Does McC typically go to this?
Yes. Starts off the post season scouting bowl games with the Shrine game then Senior bowl.

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Another height-weight-speed prospect that should project as a late round pick is Jay Lee WR, Baylor. I'm curious to hear about him.
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:53 PM   #7
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In just my limited time watching the Killebrew film (about 6-7 minutes or so) he would take the hit more than deliver it. Seemed to have good play recognition, but too many times he was letting the velocity of the other team overtake him. Makes me scared for someone that size. Wouldn't say tentative, but he just didn't have his acceleration there. It's like he would break down for the tackle and just stop moving his feet. *shrugs*
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In just my limited time watching the Killebrew film (about 6-7 minutes or so) he would take the hit more than deliver it. Seemed to have good play recognition, but too many times he was letting the velocity of the other team overtake him. Makes me scared for someone that size. Wouldn't say tentative, but he just didn't have his acceleration there. It's like he would break down for the tackle and just stop moving his feet. *shrugs*
Pretty much what I saw. It's only a 1 game sample size but I left that game feeling thatMiles lacked aggression and imho that is a trait a S must have all the time. Maybe he'll bring the wood at the Senior Bowl, but without that aggression for me personally I wouldn't pick him before the 4th round and that's only if he checks off everything else...speed, agility, coverage, range etc. The comparison's I've read about him to D. Buc and Kam Chancellor seem way, way off base.
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Pretty much what I saw. It's only a 1 game sample size but I left that game feeling thatMiles lacked aggression and imho that is a trait a S must have all the time. Maybe he'll bring the wood at the Senior Bowl, but without that aggression for me personally I wouldn't pick him before the 4th round and that's only if he checks off everything else...speed, agility, coverage, range etc. The comparison's I've read about him to D. Buc and Kam Chancellor seem way, way off base.
Agreed. Not tentative, but DEFINITELY not aggressive. It was like he was too afraid to miss the tackle.

I have a ton of faith in Scot, but I also look at the positions that bust the highest and DBs (along with QBs/WRs) tend to bust much more often than linemen, both offensive and defensive. I think taking the best DT (Kenny Clark! ) and then best C with the second pick would beef up two weak spots on both lines. After that, I'm down to try and take the next Bashaud Breeland and hope we catch lightening in a bottle twice.
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:21 AM   #10
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Agreed. Not tentative, but DEFINITELY not aggressive. It was like he was too afraid to miss the tackle.
Wanna read something funny about him?

2016 Senior Bowl preview: Carson Wentz and a whole lot more - SBNation.com

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Killebrew is a 6'3, 230-pound wrecking ball of a safety. Few players in this year's draft possess Killebrew's on-field aggression. As a senior he had 132 tackles and excelled on coverage duties.
I'm gonna take a look at his other game and maybe we just watched a 1 game aberration? But aggression imo is trait that is evident in every game.

Makes me remember that around draft season some media members will make statements fueled by hearsay from coaches, scouts, team officials, agents that can be off base sometimes wildly off base and right now his comment on Miles could be one of them.

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I have a ton of faith in Scot, but I also look at the positions that bust the highest and DBs (along with QBs/WRs) tend to bust much more often than linemen, both offensive and defensive. I think taking the best DT (Kenny Clark! ) and then best C with the second pick would beef up two weak spots on both lines. After that, I'm down to try and take the next Bashaud Breeland and hope we catch lightening in a bottle twice.
Yup, I think Scott is one of the best.

My view when it comes to the draft all any team can do is make accurate evaluations and rankings of players and allow the draft to play out and take the best player available at the time you pick. (A caveat on BPA is that it includes your own team. Therefore for a draft pick to the BPA they also have to be the BPA on your own team.)

If the draft played out to where a DL and C were BPA somewhere in the 1st 4 rounds that would be great. But I would be fine with ILB or Pass Rusher or WR or CB as well. It all depends on how the draft plays out.
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Here's my top pick: UCLA DT Kenny Clark shows intriguing potential in bowl loss - NFL.com

We have some potentially devastating losses on the defensive line if certain things happen/don't happen: Hatcher retires and Knighton isn't resigned. Baker is the one solid DT we have left. RJF was good in spot duty, but I think we'll sorely miss Hatcher's pressure (even if he didn't always get there). Clark would be an awesome, versatile piece to the middle of the defense.
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Here's my top pick: UCLA DT Kenny Clark shows intriguing potential in bowl loss - NFL.com

We have some potentially devastating losses on the defensive line if certain things happen/don't happen: Hatcher retires and Knighton isn't resigned. Baker is the one solid DT we have left. RJF was good in spot duty, but I think we'll sorely miss Hatcher's pressure (even if he didn't always get there). Clark would be an awesome, versatile piece to the middle of the defense.
Right now the talk is this draft looks to be deep at DL/front 7 defensive talent.

I haven't watched Clark yet (I start my layman scouting process now) but from what I've read from cbs seems like a stout run defender and our defense could use those. They have him projected 1-2 round.

I'll have to keep an eye out for him at the Combine.
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Old 01-26-2016, 07:09 PM   #13
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ice-live-blog/

Jeremy Cash SS/LB from Duke seems like the physical SS we would expect Miles to be....

2:31 p.m. Duke safety Jeremy Cash was nearly 6-1 and weighed 212 pounds at the Senior Bowl weigh-in. He was one of our more productive safetys but really made his mark as a run defender and pass rusher. The questions will be: Is he a safety or an outside linebacker? Does he have a Deone Bucannon role in the NFL? — Plocher
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Jeremy Cash SS/LB from Duke seems like the physical SS we would expect Miles to be....

2:31 p.m. Duke safety Jeremy Cash was nearly 6-1 and weighed 212 pounds at the Senior Bowl weigh-in. He was one of our more productive safetys but really made his mark as a run defender and pass rusher. The questions will be: Is he a safety or an outside linebacker? Does he have a Deone Bucannon role in the NFL? — Plocher
S'ua Cravens is the one in this draft who is most like D. Buc. He is 6-1, 225 and he played a hybrid SS/LB role at USC. He is a tremendous player, IMHO.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:21 PM   #15
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S'ua Cravens is the one in this draft who is most like D. Buc. He is 6-1, 225 and he played a hybrid SS/LB role at USC. He is a tremendous player, IMHO.
I'd like one each, please!

Seriously, we could use a hitter who could cover tight ends.
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