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View Poll Results: What should the Redskins do with Cousins?
Sign him to a long term deal 47 75.81%
Let him walk 4 6.45%
Use the franchise tag again 11 17.74%
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Old 11-27-2016, 10:18 AM   #1
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Well this is at least a bit of good news...

Report: Redskins will use franchise tag on Cousins absent long-term deal

http://www.thescore.com/news/1167073
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Old 11-27-2016, 04:45 PM   #2
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Well this is at least a bit of good news...

Report: Redskins will use franchise tag on Cousins absent long-term deal

Report: Redskins will use franchise tag on Cousins absent long-term deal | theScore.com
Thank God! Finally some great news regarding Cousins' situation.

So if he is tagged again, that is the last time they can tag him right, which means potentially in 2018 Kirk can sign with any team?
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Old 11-27-2016, 04:59 PM   #3
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Thank God! Finally some great news regarding Cousins' situation.

So if he is tagged again, that is the last time they can tag him right, which means potentially in 2018 Kirk can sign with any team?
No we could tag him a 3rd time. They will get a deal done though

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Old 11-27-2016, 11:58 AM   #4
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In 2011 Shanahan could have made a run a Gabbert or Ponder. He didn't. He knew they weren't worth drafting and waited a year for the better QB class.
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Old 11-27-2016, 02:14 PM   #5
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

With all the talk of Cousins future contract how do you guys feel it will effect the other players and the cap situation..something will have to give ..what high paid redskins will become expendable and how will this effect the team.
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Old 11-27-2016, 02:19 PM   #6
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With all the talk of Cousins future contract how do you guys feel it will effect the other players and the cap situation..something will have to give ..what high paid redskins will become expendable and how will this effect the team.
That's y u have to draft well and keep your own guys. Djax will probably be a casualty due to kirks deal
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With all the talk of Cousins future contract how do you guys feel it will effect the other players and the cap situation..something will have to give ..what high paid redskins will become expendable and how will this effect the team.
Saying goodbye to Hall, Lichtensteiger, Lauvao, Jackson, won't be hard. Should clear some cap space in addition to the cap space growing we will be fine. These guys can be replaced, Jackson too.
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Old 11-28-2016, 01:49 PM   #8
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

tagging cousins again is a bad move, in my opinion. it could leave a bad taste in his mouth, and make him want to try free agency. his mindset could be the skins dont trust him, and want him to prove his play every year. no upper tiered QB would be ok with that
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:53 PM   #9
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

At this point, if we franchise him again it's essentially making his contract a 2yr 59Million guaranteed (24mil this year, FT value of 35mil next year.) We need to sign him up for 6 years, and get his guaranteed number around 75m.

He's making himself a very expensive qb. Still need to sign him.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:50 PM   #10
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

If we tag him at $24M next year, we'll still have another $26M in space BEFORE cutting Hall, Lichtensteiger and any others.

I've been saying this for a long time - salary cap is not a constraint now that McCloughan is building via the draft.
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:00 PM   #11
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

Conflicting reports now on if redskins are going to use tag at all:

Washington won’t decide on Kirk Cousins until after the season ends | ProFootballTalk

Albert Breer says skins don't know what they are going to do, and won't look at the situation until after the season.

LaCanfora and others still say the skins already have plans to lock up Cousins to keep him off the open market:

Redskins Won’t Let Kirk Cousins Walk After Season « CBS DC

So if Cousins gets tagged the second time, does that mean that in 2018, the starting point for his negotiations would be 24 million?
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:02 PM   #12
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

But why tag him, if you are ok with the fact that you paid him ~20M this year, ~24M next year, how bad would he have to play not to sign him to a long term deal. Sign him to a 6 year deal, guarantee him along the lines of Andrew Luck's contract -
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I would say he should have even more fully guaranteed at signing. And be happy that we have a long term answer.

If you tag him in 2017, you set yourself up for a terrible negotiation in 2018. Either a 34M franchise tag, or a long term deal with 34M as a base.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:22 PM   #13
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Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.
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Old 11-28-2016, 06:44 PM   #14
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He's earned the long term deal, and he'll get it.
Definitely and it's going to cost even more now. That 18-19/mil a year deal went to 22-24mil/yr. I fully expect that deal to start at 50mil guaranteed and be an average of 23-24mil/yr.


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He's going to get paid. If Flacco is making 22mil/yr, you can believe that's the starting point with it ending at Luck at 24.5mil/yr.
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Kirk Cousins' growth one reason Redskins flourish minus key starters - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN
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