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Old 10-16-2005, 06:35 PM   #1
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Cutting Cartwright is not the answer. I remember people wanted to cut Antonio Pierce after he tried to draw Dallas players offsides in a game in 2003. Let's be upset (or even angry), but not hasty.
If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:37 PM   #2
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With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:24 PM   #3
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With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?
quite simply, no
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:32 PM   #4
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quite simply, no
Give Nemo a shot! We didn't sign him not to use him. He showed some balls catching that kickoff too.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:42 PM   #5
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If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.
How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:51 PM   #6
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How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?

Protecting the ball with both hands is a start.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:14 AM   #7
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Re: Same Ol' Story

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How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?
Ok, because Brunell has won three games and is throwing for over 300 yards a game and he also redeems himself. All Rock did was run once and then fumble at a critical time. There is no comparison. Bad example...Cut Rock, let Nemo have the rock and the rock can go Find Nemo on the playing field.
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Old 10-19-2005, 12:37 AM   #8
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Ok, because Brunell has won three games and is throwing for over 300 yards a game and he also redeems himself. All Rock did was run once and then fumble at a critical time. There is no comparison. Bad example...Cut Rock, let Nemo have the rock and the rock can go Find Nemo on the playing field.

That was almost a pun....Cutting Rock would be stupid. He's the definition of a core guy. He contributes on ST's and has done everyting he's ever been asked to do. Even in the preseason when everyone was on Nemo's nuts, Rock outperformed him. He can move a pile and catch out of the backfield. On top of which (as previously mentioned) he's a ST beast. Nemo, on the other hand, is a ST's numbnuts. What the hell was he thinking jumping in front of Thrash and catching the ball?? Someone needs to tell him in the history of the league theres never been a successful 250lb return man who runs the forty in forty 16secs.
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