The after London semi-meltdown thread.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Someone please tell me Gruden was being sarcastic about saying he didn't know you could tie? And he didn't understand how a team could tie last week? Is he really that fucking stupid?

Since no one has defended Gruden I have to assume he's that stupid,Our coaches suck

[Ohioskins]

This team is so demoralizing to watch. Even when they are doing well, I feel like I am waiting for the other shoe to fall.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.



If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

Cutting Hopkins does nothing to solve the real problem... scoring in the redzone.

Hopkins has been a nice find, I wouldn't cut him off one miss and I think that sends the wrong message anyway.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

These last 2 games should have been wins...just brutal.

I appreciate the fight and how competitive this team is...which is a big positive and really defines this team since this time last last year. Other than that pathetic Pittsburgh game, we have played with the intensity which keeps us in every game.

But what is aggravating is when we fucking dominant our opponent (like we did in the first half today, no question) but we can't get the ball in the end zone for td scores OR have lapses on special teams or dumb penalty or turnover which keeps the opponents in the game with easy scores. I've seen this multiple times this season where we should have 2 score or double digit leads,but we let the other team hang around.

this is what pisses me the fuck off. I blame the coaches and the players...

I share your frustration that we haven't been able to finish games. It's a damn shame that we failed to pick up wins the last two weeks. We could be 6-2 right now. But we're not.

What we are is competitive. Right now, I'd say there are fewer than half a dozen teams in the league that I'd expect to dominate us in any given game. That's real progress.

All year I've been trying to keep my emotions in check because i believe we are still one off-season (one FA period and one Draft) away from becoming a perennial contender. If we compete for a playoff spot this season, it's gravy, as far as I'm concerned.

Rash changes in the coaching staff or player personnel is the last thing I want to see right now. We're headed in the right direction, so I'd hate to see the decision-makers rock the boat during the season. The off-season is the time to make all of those assessments and decisions, IMO.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Since no one has defended Gruden I have to assume he's that stupid,Our coaches suck

He's not that stupid. It was a smart-ass remark reflecting his frustration. Jay Gruden is a keeper, IMO. Now, as for some of his assistants, he needs to take a hard look, in the off-season, on whether or not they should be retained.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It's really frustrating to hear gruden say "we got to get back to running the ball" or "we abandoned the run there for awhile". He siad this shit after halftime today.

Your the fuckin head coach, do something about it. I've heard this said 3 to 4 times after games, during games.

I just think that with this staff, they like to throw the ball more now that they have so many pass catchers. It's what they do best. They're never going to be the type that is committed to the run. He may say it but it's just lip service.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

He's not that stupid. It was a smart-ass remark reflecting his frustration. Jay Gruden is a keeper, IMO. Now, as for some of his assistants, he needs to take a hard look, in the off-season, on whether or not they should be retained.

Actually I like what Barry did yesterday. He's so inconsistent with his playcalling, but yesterday he was sending guys and getting after Dalton. Where was that last week???

[skinsfan69]

Would anyone be complaining about coaching and so on if Hopkins makes that kick?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.

If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

SMH... you can't just go around cutting guys when they have a bad game. When you have a shit day at work does your boss walk over to you and tell you to pack your bags? Hopkins has been more that solid for us.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think the bottom line is we are this: an average team trending in the right direction the past couple of years. Our offense is great. Our defense has some talent, but still has a bunch of holes to overcome.

We DEFINITELY get unlucky, but someone else was saying it, the good teams overcome bad/dumb luck. I'm happy with the direction the team is going in, even though I wish the rest of the NFCE wasn't going in the right direction as well.

[Chico23231]

this hand checking calls on Norman were crazy..i saw one that looked legit. But the CB is allowed to punch, grab and touch the receiver within 5 yards of the los. I don't get how this technique that Josh has practiced time and time again is all of a sudden illegal in this one game?

where is the fuckin consistency in this league with the officiating? Im so effin pissed about this crap.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

First and foremost- this team has fight.



It wasn't too long ago, that we were finishing below .500 every year.



I know it sucks to lose tight games, but....at least we are IN these games to the end. It wasn't always like that.



So, that's step #1.



Step #2 is to learn to finish more of these games & bring home the win.



It won't take take much to get to step 2 consistently.

Josh Norman needs called out by his teammates to cut out the stupid penalties.

He knows better- he'll clean it up.



Hopkins- I am still behind this guy. Yeah, he had a bad game & missed a few make-able kicks. He is still light years ahead of the chumps we used to roll through here.

Anyone remember the (what was it?) 8-10 years of sub-par kickers?

He's still young & he'll reflect & learn from this.



So we get to the halfway point & now have a bye week.

Time to get healthy, look back on what could have been better & get a plan to fix it.



Things are not all bleak...there is a lot of positive to be taken from the crappy outcome today.



We're at the half way mark & we're 1.5 games over .500. We all know it could be more & so do the players & coaches. That should give everyone more confidence & resolve to get the rest of the little things ironed out & start rocking for the second half & the playoff run.



Hail!

Agree with everything. We are 110% in the mix not only for the division but for a wildcard midway through.
Fuck Hopkins though. He has a noodle leg, and he needs to go.
Norman got absolutely toasted yesterday. He is no Revis. Not even close. We need him but he is not worth his paycheck.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cutting Hopkins does nothing to solve the real problem... scoring in the redzone.

Hopkins has been a nice find, I wouldn't cut him off one miss and I think that sends the wrong message anyway.

While I am mad at Hopkins we have seen this narrative before, we cut a kicker based off one miss and he becomes a pro bowl kicker for another team. The scoring in the red zone thing is worrying me more, we are top 5 in pass yards, yards per play, and top 7 in 3rd down conversions but 28th in red zone TD pct. that I don't get. That needs to sure up quickly.

[Chico23231]

Folks calling for Hopkins to go need to effing chill. Doesn't solve sh*t right now.

Lets regroup on the bye...Folks like Jones, Hopkins need to get a chance to get their head right....some others need to heal their body.....and even others to spend a little time in the film room or with staff to work on game for a better impact the second half of the season (IM LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU PRESTON SMITH AND BREELAND)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

this hand checking calls on Norman were crazy..i saw one that looked legit. But the CB is allowed to punch, grab and touch the receiver within 5 yards of the los. I don't get how this technique that Josh has practiced time and time again is all of a sudden illegal in this one game?



where is the fuckin consistency in this league with the officiating? Im so effin pissed about this crap.

Those calls were such ticky tacky BS. I do believe that Norman is a marked man right now.