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[Ohioskins]

We definitely have to keep Nsekhe. For all of his talent, TW seems to be a not very bright guy. One more substance abuse charge against him and he could be gone for awhile. I am not convinced he is able to get that thru his head. We need to have a competent backup ready and able to go at any time with TW's habits.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

We definitely have to keep Nsekhe. For all of his talent, TW seems to be a not very bright guy. One more substance abuse charge against him and he could be gone for awhile. I am not convinced he is able to get that thru his head. We need to have a competent backup ready and able to go at any time with TW's habits.

Ty is a restricted free agent, meaning we have the right to match any contract offered this offseason. He is going to get a mid level starting LT contract after the season and there is no way we match that for a swing back up tackle. He has also said that he is a natural LT and not as good at RT so there is no way they replace Moses with him.

Ty Nsekhe Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Ty is a restricted free agent, meaning we have the right to match any contract offered this offseason. He is going to get a mid level starting LT contract after the season and there is no way we match that for a swing back up tackle. He has also said that he is a natural LT and not as good at RT so there is no way they replace Moses with him.

Ty Nsekhe Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

How much is a 32 year old career back up going to get on the open market? IMO that is a guy you may have to overpay to keep around.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How much is a 32 year old career back up going to get on the open market? IMO that is a guy you may have to overpay to keep around.

I don't think many teams will be lining up for him. I'd be surprised if we can't keep him around.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't think many teams will be lining up for him. I'd be surprised if we can't keep him around.

i completely disagree with this statement. He may be 32, but has almost no wear on his body as he is only in his second year in the league . . . he'll be fine for another 5 - 7 years, and he'll get a big $$$ contract somewhere as left tackles are not easy to come by.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

i completely disagree with this statement. He may be 32, but has almost no wear on his body as he is only in his second year in the league . . . he'll be fine for another 5 - 7 years, and he'll get a big $$$ contract somewhere as left tackles are not easy to come by.

He's played plenty of football in the arena league so the wear and tear argument doesn't really fly. He's on the wrong side of 30, teams aren't going to want to make any big commitment.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's played plenty of football in the arena league so the wear and tear argument doesn't really fly. He's on the wrong side of 30, teams aren't going to want to make any big commitment.

When a team is desperate for a starting caliber T in this case an LT, some foolish team just might give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder. LT's don't grow in trees.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's played plenty of football in the arena league so the wear and tear argument doesn't really fly. He's on the wrong side of 30, teams aren't going to want to make any big commitment.

fine, though . . . in minor leagues, players will have a little wear and tear, but he was going up against guys much smaller and less talented then him . . . i'm sure he didn't have to work as hard or take as many blows to the knees which are the most crucial for wear and tear on a lineman . . . but either way, offensive lineman play into their late 30's quite a bit . . . quality left tackles are extremely hard to find and his is playing like a top 3 LT .. . . he will get paid by someone, and if the skins want to keep him he will be the 2nd highest paid o-linemen on the team behind TW . . . plus Alex Mac just signed a huge contract in Atlanta and he is 31 and just a center . . . centers make far less than tackles

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How much is a 32 year old career back up going to get on the open market? IMO that is a guy you may have to overpay to keep around.

he may be a career backup, but he is only in his second year . . . there is very very very little wear on his body . . . he should be good for a while . . . and if he plays the next 2 games like he did this one, he will demand a good amount of $$$ (ton to me) as he is a LT and LT's are EXPENSIVE.


Nice to have excess quality offensive lineman instead of one of the worse group of onlineman in the league isn't it?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

he may be a career backup, but he is only in his second year . . . there is very very very little wear on his body . . . he should be good for a while . . . and if he plays the next 2 games like he did this one, he will demand a good amount of $$$ (ton to me) as he is a LT and LT's are EXPENSIVE.


Nice to have excess quality offensive lineman instead of one of the worse group of onlineman in the league isn't it?

Remember Ray Brown? Same deal.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Remember Ray Brown? Same deal.

no even close to the same deal . . . Ray Brown was in his 19th season when he signed with the skins (i am assuming your are talking about his second stint with the Skins as he got a big contract from the 49ers after his first stint in Washington) . . . not his second . . . Ray Brown was 42 (not 32) years old and in his 19th season . . . and still played damn good . . . Nsekhe is 32 and in his 2nd year . . . HUGE DIFFERENCE

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

no even close to the same deal . . . Ray Brown was in his 19th season when he signed with the skins (i am assuming your are talking about his second stint with the Skins as he got a big contract from the 49ers after his first stint in Washington) . . . not his second . . . Ray Brown was 42 (not 32) years old and in his 19th season . . . and still played damn good . . . Nsekhe is 32 and in his 2nd year . . . HUGE DIFFERENCE

He was like 28 when he played he first for the skins and sat on the bench for a few years, then he started, signed with the 49ers in his 30's and dominated during that time. That's what I meant.