Recount Opinions

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But now that HC lost, rather than a honest self examination of how a person, ANY person, could lose to Trump, the core democratic reflection is on an occurrence that President Obama acknowledges had no direct impact.



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Was it not Trump who was screaming though the campaign that the election was rigged?
Was it not Trump who would not agree to the election results if he lost?
Is it not the FBI ,CIA and NSA all saying the same thing?
Sorry but Wikileaks has no credibility ,none.
None of the Agencies have said a word about what it is they think happen or how or when.
Pretty sure Obama didn't give out all the pertinent info in that interview.
Do you really believe this or worse would not be going on had Trump lost?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Was it not Trump who was screaming though the campaign that the election was rigged?
Was it not Trump who would not agree to the election results if he lost?
Is it not the FBI ,CIA and NSA all saying the same thing?
Sorry but Wikileaks has no credibility ,none.
None of the Agencies have said a word about what it is they think happen or how or when.
Pretty sure Obama didn't give out all the pertinent info in that interview.
Do you really believe this or worse would not be going on had Trump lost?

I don't know. Chances are Trump would have screamed and hollered. But he basically said he would. President Obama and HC were strident that if he did it would have been a ridiculous attempt by a vain man and that there was no indication that the election results would be influenced by anyone.

The reason I point to President Obama's interview is because in it he says that from early September there was no more interference. That means that most of the hacking took place during the primaries. So this outrage now is just political showmanship like Trump's hollering and screaming would have been.

As an aside - Who would the Russians rather have in a 3way question - HC Bernie or Trump. We know for a fact that NOONE wants HC in a 3 way so I have to say that the Russians were preferring Bernie and Trump.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't know. Chances are Trump would have screamed and hollered. But he basically said he would. President Obama and HC were strident that if he did it would have been a ridiculous attempt by a vain man and that there was no indication that the election results would be influenced by anyone.

The reason I point to President Obama's interview is because in it he says that from early September there was no more interference. That means that most of the hacking took place during the primaries. So this outrage now is just political showmanship like Trump's hollering and screaming would have been.

As an aside - Who would the Russians rather have in a 3way question - HC Bernie or Trump. We know for a fact that NOONE wants HC in a 3 way so I have to say that the Russians were preferring Bernie and Trump.

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See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.

I'm not sure which part you disagree with that the gas deal proves. I do agree gas is going up but that's because of Trump's promises to coal and fracking interests Russian and opec price fixing won't set the cost of gas for the US it will be around the profit point for fracking.
To be clear I think Trump will take a hard line with China and be more friendly to Russia. But I believe the Russian interference was directly related to Clinton Putin hates her and what she did as SoS (all the spring movements) and far less dependent on who the Republican candidate was.

Does it make it more palatable? Not really, but I think the Democratic outrage is pure politics to try and put spin on the transition.

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[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I'm not sure which part you disagree with that the gas deal proves. I do agree gas is going up but that's because of Trump's promises to coal and fracking interests Russian and opec price fixing won't set the cost of gas for the US it will be around the profit point for fracking.
To be clear I think Trump will take a hard line with China and be more friendly to Russia. But I believe the Russian interference was directly related to Clinton Putin hates her and what she did as SoS (all the spring movements) and far less dependent on who the Republican candidate was.

Does it make it more palatable? Not really, but I think the Democratic outrage is pure politics to try and put spin on the transition.

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Yeah, the amount of crying from democrats has been hysterical since the election. Everything will be spun the worst way possible now, especially by internet whiners and CNN/MSNBC/etc.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by Giantone

See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.

How will Americans pay dearly for better relations with Russia because of an oil deal? Ever sea a geological map of the Siberia oil/ gas fields? If
Exxon gets to drill there it might not be a bad thing at all. That is one huge gigantic oil reserve there man!!! I rather take Russian oil than continue to frack. Everywhere they frack, the water table is poisoned. The only folks who profit from a new cold war are the corporations of the industrial military complex.