Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Winning is the ultimate money maker. People forget that he grew up a Redskins fan, I can't imagine him wanting anything but to add another Lombardi trophy to the collection. With hiring McCloughan he proved that he's serious about getting it done.

Agreed. It just took him longer than necessary to step aside and hire football people, empower them to make the football decisions, and allow them manage his beloved Redskins football team. As an organization they are definitely trending upwards, and I suspect the team will follow.

[irish]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Although I'm a firm believer that people don't change, I think Snyder has definitely learned his lesson and is aiming for stability and long-term success. He knows as well as Gruden and McC that we won't win now, that this takes time. I think the RG3 deal was the last drop.

I agree that DS has finally learned his lesson about how to win. What surprised me is how long it took him to learn the lesson.

[skinsfan69]

He bought the team in 1999 and didn't really change much until SM was hired. That's basically 16 or so years of basically doing things by a 'win now' approach. To me that is just pure stupidity and stubbornness from someone that's obviously very intelligent. I still do not trust Dan Snyder. He had no choice but to hire SM. After 2014 the fan base was pretty much revolting and eroding.

Many of the younger fans only know the Dan Snyder way of doing things. They don't know the Cooke years, where there was always a strong GM in place.

[FlyerSkin]

The hiring of Scott doesn't necessarily mean he really changed, he just gave in to popular sentiment as fans were on the verge of bolting as things stood back then. As for making $$$$ , winning isn't necessary. The Skins were either 1 or 2 in Forbes most wealthy sports franchises on the planet during the previous decade and they sucked. Trouble is Dan really messed it up so bad that it will be years before we are good. Why did we end up with the likes of Zorn or Gruden? Nobody wanted to enter the hurricane of chaos. We chained the Shanahans to RG III and that was a disaster. If Dan really learned his lesson we won't go for sexy pics and he will let the football people run the show from here on out. It has been only a couple seasons for that. This off-season and next will be very telling if he did.

[MTK]

There are plenty of more profitable ventures than owning a football team. People who buy teams already have a ton of money.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

The hiring of Scott doesn't necessarily mean he really changed, he just gave in to popular sentiment as fans were on the verge of bolting as things stood back then. As for making $$$$ , winning isn't necessary. The Skins were either 1 or 2 in Forbes most wealthy sports franchises on the planet during the previous decade and they sucked. Trouble is Dan really messed it up so bad that it will be years before we are good. Why did we end up with the likes of Zorn or Gruden? Nobody wanted to enter the hurricane of chaos. We chained the Shanahans to RG III and that was a disaster. If Dan really learned his lesson we won't go for sexy pics and he will let the football people run the show from here on out. It has been only a couple seasons for that. This off-season and next will be very telling if he did.

What?? Years before we are good. We went to the playoffs last year and are playing for the 6th seed. We are one more win away from a 2nd winning season. Why did we end up with Gruden? Because he is a fucking good coach. Won't go for the sexy pics?? HUH??

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He bought the team in 1999 and didn't really change much until SM was hired. That's basically 16 or so years of basically doing things by a 'win now' approach. To me that is just pure stupidity and stubbornness from someone that's obviously very intelligent. I still do not trust Dan Snyder. He had no choice but to hire SM. After 2014 the fan base was pretty much revolting and eroding.

Many of the younger fans only know the Dan Snyder way of doing things. They don't know the Cooke years, where there was always a strong GM in place.

We all have are opinions on Dan Snyder, but I think he changed that day he shit canned Vinny and hired the Rat. He brought in Bruce, and things have been different. We have not been the off season champs in 7 years.

The Redskins have a bright future. KC is 28 and has 8 - 10 more good years. We have 4 pro bowlers and 2 alternates. We are a couple of defensive players away from being a really good team.

[punch it in]

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

What?? Years before we are good. We went to the playoffs last year and are playing for the 6th seed. We are one more win away from a 2nd winning season. Why did we end up with Gruden? Because he is a fucking good coach. Won't go for the sexy pics?? HUH??

Have to agree. It is definitely better than it was. I think that is almost completely due to the fact that we have a really good quarterback and a HC that compliments him.
Not sure how sold I am on what Scot has done? Going to take another year or two to get a better feel on the past two drafts. If I had to grade them now it would not be a great one. This upcoming off season is THEE time to address the defense We have a great offense that just needs a RB. Maybe an additional o lineman. Maybe a tight end. Though with this exact offense we can win alot of games. So show me that you can turn the defense around now while we are primed on the other side of the ball!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

What?? Years before we are good. We went to the playoffs last year and are playing for the 6th seed. We are one more win away from a 2nd winning season. Why did we end up with Gruden? Because he is a fucking good coach. Won't go for the sexy pics?? HUH??

We already have a winning season again.

[Bangee7]

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

He's better than most QBs today. He's going to get paid well it's the life of the business

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

He won't be here next year, i don't think there is any question in anyone's mind at redskins park.

I like Kirk and hate to see him go, he has been our best QB here in a long damn time, but i don't think they want him here, and he himself wants to be where he is wanted. Someone is going to pay him big money to be their franchise QB, i don't think it is going to be us.

The biggest question right now i think is who is going to replace him. I don't think its anyone on the roster right now, even though Cooley hinted a couple of weeks back that the thought process was that they felt they could get comparable results with a "guy like Colt" also, definatley not implying that it would BE Colt, just someone "like him". So maybe they go get a Colt-like guy / cheap QB in FA and build up the rest of the team. Not really sure.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

He won't be here next year, i don't think there is any question in anyone's mind at redskins park.

I like Kirk and hate to see him go, he has been our best QB here in a long damn time, but i don't think they want him here, and he himself wants to be where he is wanted. Someone is going to pay him big money to be their franchise QB, i don't think it is going to be us.

The biggest question right now i think is who is going to replace him. I don't think its anyone on the roster right now, even though Cooley hinted a couple of weeks back that the thought process was that they felt they could get comparable results with a "guy like Colt" also, definatley not implying that it would BE Colt, just someone "like him". So maybe they go get a Colt-like guy / cheap QB in FA and build up the rest of the team. Not really sure.

I saw 3 reports that said the skins will tag him if no deal is made. Scot runs the show and he isn't letting a QB like kirk walk away free. He'll be there again next year

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I saw 3 reports that said the skins will tag him if no deal is made. Scot runs the show and he isn't letting a QB like kirk walk away free. He'll be there again next year

How much would it be to franchise him next year?