Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

[skinsfan69]

Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.

I agree, there's this goofy tendency in the NFL to hire people you're familiar with. Why wouldn't you open it up to everybody and just objectively look at their experience, results, and interviews. If you have personal experience with them that can serve as a tiebreaker, fine. But I'm a hiring manager, and while it's nowhere near the same as hiring coaches, I'd be stupid to restrict myself to hiring people who I either worked with previously or went to school with.

Hopefully Gruden keeps his mind open. There are good candidates out there.

[Alvin Walton]

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.

Even more than his play calling, some personnel decisions by this defensive staff drove me crazy.

Starting with sticking with Cravens at LB.

Among other things, Cooley gave some good reasons for a defensive staff change in his "what went wrong this year?" segment:

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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.

I don't understand how you hire a guy whose only previous experience as an NFL defensive coordinator resulted in a 0-16 season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I don't understand how you hire a guy whose only previous experience as an NFL defensive coordinator resulted in a 0-16 season.

To be fair you can't pin that all on him. If you go 0-16 you've got problems all over the place starting with a big time lack of talent.