Stock UP; Stock DOWN

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by calia

Dude. Chill. You're comparing Cousins to one of the better QBs ever. Who has also played nearly a decade longer and has Jones his craft with a stable team, good coaches, strong supporting cast, etc. Cousins has been very good the last two seasons. And he will be this year too.


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I see your point but Cousins wants to be paid like One of the top QB's and actually looks shaky. We will see how this plays out.

[MTK]

Gotta love a good preseason freak out

[TheMalcolmConnection]

The only thing I'm really worried about is the fundamental way our starting offensive line is getting pushed back. Them not picking up blitzes, etc., I can get over that because they didn't game plan for those. I'm slightly concerned with ZERO push being generated by anyone (including Scherff ).

For stock up, the starting defense really does look to be vastly improved over last year.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The only thing I'm really worried about is the fundamental way our starting offensive line is getting pushed back. Them not picking up blitzes, etc., I can get over that because they didn't game plan for those. I'm slightly concerned with ZERO push being generated by anyone (including Scherff ).

For stock up, the starting defense really does look to be vastly improved over last year.

This! People were saying this Oline was on the way to being one of the best in the NFL....not so fast. They have been handled in both games thus far. I'll give them the Baltimore game...first preseason game, on the road, who cares...but Saturday night they didn't look any different at all. If they look the same in the 3rd game, then you have to start thinking that there's a problem. These guys supposedly love to run block, and they're getting pushed straight back. If it's truly just lack of interest, like some are suggesting, then I think that's a problem too.

[over the mountain]

Stock Up:

- Phil Taylor

Stock Down:

- Lauvau ... same thing for 3 years now.

- Callahan ... I know he is supposed to be a coveted specialist, he has the O line group as first one on the field, last one off but our run game has disappeared since he got here. Him not wanting to use a FB and Gruden cottowing that has really costs us imo. We had one of the better FBs in the game in DY.

He has the talent, we have committed a lot of $$ and top draft picks to the unit and there is very little turn over in personnel.

I dont understand it. Guys getting pushed back, missed assignments etc have been killing the run game for years now.

Address it. Its year 3.

- Cousins ... this isnt a stock down thing for me and I believe in Cousins but last year when playing on the tag he was too quick to get rid of the ball and he adjusted half way through the season to take some risks, extend plays etc. In the brief time we have seen him this PS, it seems like he is quick to get rid of the ball/take a hit.

Its PS, its fine, Id rather he get rid of the ball early in PS ... but come week 1 against the Eagles, he needs to hang in there and make plays down the field under duress, not just when everything is going 100% perfect on that particular play.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Stock Up:

- Phil Taylor

Stock Down:

- Lauvau ... same thing for 3 years now.

- Callahan ... I know he is supposed to be a coveted specialist, he has the O line group as first one on the field, last one off but our run game has disappeared since he got here. Him not wanting to use a FB and Gruden cottowing that has really costs us imo. We had one of the better FBs in the game in DY.

He has the talent, we have committed a lot of $$ and top draft picks to the unit and there is very little turn over in personnel.

I dont understand it. Guys getting pushed back, missed assignments etc have been killing the run game for years now.

Address it. Its year 3.

- Cousins ... this isnt a stock down thing for me and I believe in Cousins but last year when playing on the tag he was too quick to get rid of the ball and he adjusted half way through the season to take some risks, extend plays etc. In the brief time we have seen him this PS, it seems like he is quick to get rid of the ball/take a hit.

Its PS, its fine, Id rather he get rid of the ball early in PS ... but come week 1 against the Eagles, he needs to hang in there and make plays down the field under duress, not just when everything is going 100% perfect on that particular play.

I'm noticing him to be a HUGE liability. I see him get blown off the ball constantly. Hoping someone can overtake him soon.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm noticing him to be a HUGE liability. I see him get blown off the ball constantly. Hoping someone can overtake him soon.

I noticed Spencer long not getting any push either. Luavo needs to go.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I noticed Spencer long not getting any push either. Luavo needs to go.

I'll accept no push for now, but I rewatched Lauvao getting absolutely demolished multiple plays. We could definitely stand to upgrade both of those. Center I'm "OK" with right now.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'm noticing him to be a HUGE liability. I see him get blown off the ball constantly. Hoping someone can overtake him soon.

Last year he was our less capable offensive lineman. I was hoping Kouandjio would step it up and take his spot.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

- Callahan ... I know he is supposed to be a coveted specialist, he has the O line group as first one on the field, last one off but our run game has disappeared since he got here. Him not wanting to use a FB and Gruden cottowing that has really costs us imo. We had one of the better FBs in the game in DY.

Yes, it's time to fix this problem. They can say they want to run the ball better (and that leads to running it more) but talk is cheap. If they really want to run the ball well, they need to use a fullback and they need to FINALLY GET A DAMN RUN-BLOCKING TIGHT END - NOW! Don't wait for Sprinkle to develop; pick up a TE who can block like hell, even if he can't catch a cold. Right now, we have four under-sized pass-catching TE's and one rookie. Two of those pass-catchers need to go in favor of a big, people-moving TE.

We should be able to compete for our division title this season, so they shouldn't be screwing around with a weak running game. They should get a REAL blocking TE and a BEASTLY FB right away.

BTW, Jay Gruden should tell Callahan that he doesn't give a rat's rear end about Callahan's run game philosophy and to just fix the run game NOW, whatever it takes.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes, it's time to fix this problem. They can say they want to run the ball better (and that leads to running it more) but talk is cheap. If they really want to run the ball well, they need to use a fullback and they need to FINALLY GET A DAMN RUN-BLOCKING TIGHT END - NOW! Don't wait for Sprinkle to develop; pick up a TE who can block like hell, even if he can't catch a cold. Right now, we have four under-sized pass-catching TE's and one rookie. Two of those pass-catchers need to go in favor of a big, people-moving TE.

We should be able to compete for our division title this season, so they shouldn't be screwing around with a weak running game. They should get a REAL blocking TE and a BEASTLY FB right away.

BTW, Jay Gruden should tell Callahan that he doesn't give a rat's rear end about Callahan's run game philosophy and to just fix the run game NOW, whatever it takes.

It's a couple weeks before the season starts. This needed to be addressed in the off season. You can't go out and bring in all new TE'S and a fullback at this time of the year. They're going to have to go with who they've got.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's a couple weeks before the season starts. This needed to be addressed in the off season. You can't go out and bring in all new TE'S and a fullback at this time of the year. They're going to have to go with who they've got.

Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

Look, there comes a time in every business when higher management needs to tell a subordinate manager "No excuses, just fix it! Figure it out. That's what I pay you for and I expect results." Heaven knows, I heard that a few times in my business career. Bruce needs to tell Doug and Jay "Just fix it!".

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

Look, there comes a time in every business when higher management needs to tell a subordinate manager "No excuses, just fix it! Figure it out. That's what I pay you for and I expect results." Heaven knows, I heard that a few times in my business career. Bruce needs to tell Doug and Jay "Just fix it!".

The best way to fix it isn't through personnel moves. The best way to fix it is through coaches coaching better and players playing better.

Our line and tight ends can run block a lot better than they did the other night. They need to get it together.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

Look, there comes a time in every business when higher management needs to tell a subordinate manager "No excuses, just fix it! Figure it out. That's what I pay you for and I expect results." Heaven knows, I heard that a few times in my business career. Bruce needs to tell Doug and Jay "Just fix it!".

The sky isn't falling because the offense can't run the ball in pre season. But again, this team probably isn't going to be a good running team. It's just not what they do best. This is and will be a throw first team. I just hope they'll be able to run it a little better than what we've seen so far.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes, it's time to fix this problem. They can say they want to run the ball better (and that leads to running it more) but talk is cheap. If they really want to run the ball well, they need to use a fullback and they need to FINALLY GET A DAMN RUN-BLOCKING TIGHT END - NOW! Don't wait for Sprinkle to develop; pick up a TE who can block like hell, even if he can't catch a cold. Right now, we have four under-sized pass-catching TE's and one rookie. Two of those pass-catchers need to go in favor of a big, people-moving TE.

We should be able to compete for our division title this season, so they shouldn't be screwing around with a weak running game. They should get a REAL blocking TE and a BEASTLY FB right away.

BTW, Jay Gruden should tell Callahan that he doesn't give a rat's rear end about Callahan's run game philosophy and to just fix the run game NOW, whatever it takes.

I was wondering today if the run game disappeared when we cut the FB off our roster.

Is it really that our o-line is blocking worse or is it that we don't have that extra lead blocker?

Either way, something is definitely off and has been since last year. Same line, same coaches, same RBs's...hard to see how it will get better.