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Old 08-22-2017, 08:16 AM   #1
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It's a couple weeks before the season starts. This needed to be addressed in the off season. You can't go out and bring in all new TE'S and a fullback at this time of the year. They're going to have to go with who they've got.
Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

Look, there comes a time in every business when higher management needs to tell a subordinate manager "No excuses, just fix it! Figure it out. That's what I pay you for and I expect results." Heaven knows, I heard that a few times in my business career. Bruce needs to tell Doug and Jay "Just fix it!".
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:41 AM   #2
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Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

Look, there comes a time in every business when higher management needs to tell a subordinate manager "No excuses, just fix it! Figure it out. That's what I pay you for and I expect results." Heaven knows, I heard that a few times in my business career. Bruce needs to tell Doug and Jay "Just fix it!".
The best way to fix it isn't through personnel moves. The best way to fix it is through coaches coaching better and players playing better.

Our line and tight ends can run block a lot better than they did the other night. They need to get it together.
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Moving the rookie into long spot. Good
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Moving the rookie into long spot. Good
Never want an injury but I'd prefer Long at LG and Chase at C. Chase hasn't done anything yet but I'm high on him. I think he is our future center.
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Chase Roullier...per kiem...this is a great position to evaluate our rookie because he has been "impressive".

Would love to see this turn into the position battle
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Chase Roullier...per kiem...this is a great position to evaluate our rookie because he has been "impressive".

Would love to see this turn into the position battle
I would love it because it could mean Long to LG, Roullier to center, and Lauvao to the bench.

Long way to go before we get there. But we drafted Scherff thinking he'd be our RT, and then Moses really came on in his second year. If Roullier did the same thing next summer it would solve an awful lot for us.
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I would love it because it could mean Long to LG, Roullier to center, and Lauvao to the bench.

Long way to go before we get there. But we drafted Scherff thinking he'd be our RT, and then Moses really came on in his second year. If Roullier did the same thing next summer it would solve an awful lot for us.
"I would love it because it could mean Long to LG, Roullier to center, and Lauvao to the bench."

...besides Zach Brown starting, based on our current players, this is the next biggest thing I want. Lauvao is not good enough.
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The best way to fix it isn't through personnel moves. The best way to fix it is through coaches coaching better and players playing better.

Our line and tight ends can run block a lot better than they did the other night. They need to get it together.
Cut some loafing bastard who thinks he's got the team made. That should get everyone else's attention.
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Your comments sound just like the conventional fan wisdom we fans adopt year after year when our team fails to address the same obvious weakness. We just give up and tell ourselves to wait for next season. Well, I'm tired of that. It's time for this group of executives and coaches to get serious about winning. To me, that means, in part, never conceding that a weak area can't be improved right now and then letting it slide.

There are many instances where a team has found role players who can help them in specific ways among late cuts or even street FA's. Are you saying we can't find a FB who can run block effectively on short yardage plays? Well, I simply can't believe that.

If, for some reason, they can't pick up somebody, why not hold tryouts among players who are currently on the roster to fill certain roles? Somebody may see a better chance to make the 53 man roster by adding value as an extra blocker at FB or TE.

If the coaches and player personnel people haven't figured it out yet, they need to work harder and smarter to fix the problem - now. They must refuse to accept poor results. We have a legitimate chance to win our division, for goodness sakes!

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The sky isn't falling because the offense can't run the ball in pre season. But again, this team probably isn't going to be a good running team. It's just not what they do best. This is and will be a throw first team. I just hope they'll be able to run it a little better than what we've seen so far.
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The sky isn't falling because the offense can't run the ball in pre season. But again, this team probably isn't going to be a good running team. It's just not what they do best. This is and will be a throw first team. I just hope they'll be able to run it a little better than what we've seen so far.
What I dread is predictable play calling from gruden. If we arent running the ball well, i think he wont run the ball on 1st down plays.

1st play is an incomplete short to mid range pass.
2nd play is a run for little to no gain.
3rd and long .. predictable pass play of draw to CT

I think we need to figure out how to pick up 3-5 yards on 1st down play calls. We have to keep D coord guessing whether it will be pass or run on 1st down calls.
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The sky isn't falling because the offense can't run the ball in pre season. But again, this team probably isn't going to be a good running team. It's just not what they do best. This is and will be a throw first team. I just hope they'll be able to run it a little better than what we've seen so far.
Don't act like this is a new problem that only occurs in the pre-season. I'm not panicking; I just think that when you have a problem for years, you ought to be able to fix it.

Jay Gruden could fix it if he wanted to do so. He simply doesn't emphasize the running game enough and he probably never will. That's just bullshit because other teams have proven that a team can be good at both passing and running.
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The sky isn't falling because the offense can't run the ball in pre season. But again, this team probably isn't going to be a good running team. It's just not what they do best. This is and will be a throw first team. I just hope they'll be able to run it a little better than what we've seen so far.
Oh great .. A pass first team built around a QB we can't or won't sign to a long term contract...we won't win 6 games with this thinking. bottom line is as long as This QB circus goes on this will be a comedy show team. The best RB on team is Matt Jones and he fumbled a few too many times and the Team soured on him..too bad because he will be good on another team. every team in league will tee off on the pass so Cousins better be ready or he will get injured..
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