Ugly week 1 again... Post game thread.

[mredskins]

WiLLH great write up, god bless you for watching x2.

I think in hindsight probably should have kept DJAX or PG. WR went from our strongest position to one the least strongest.

I will say glad we didn't lock KC up, lets see what he does this year with out PG and DJAX. My guess, its going to be obvious he is not worth the $$$.

[skinsfaninok]

The skins are hated by the league folks, they want the name changed and they don't like Dan because he fights them for it.. Until it happens we will always get the bad calls, if that was any other team, you would still be hearing about it.

[MTK]

Kirk is a proven slow starter, I think it would be wise to ease up with the constant contract analysis.

[CRedskinsRule]

The offense in general has been a slow starter. I will say I expected a lot more penalties. JReed should never ever be asked to block. His holding penalties are ...

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk is a proven slow starter, I think it would be wise to ease up with the constant contract analysis.

Yeah I think this week he'll start to get it going more, by week 3 against a bad Oakland secondary he will probably be back.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk is a proven slow starter, I think it would be wise to ease up with the constant contract analysis.

Stats say Washington Redskins' Kirk Cousins must improve under duress - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Stats say Washington Redskins' Kirk Cousins must improve under duress - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

Surprised to see some of those stats, he's just 1 behind AROD under duress? Pretty crazy. With Kirk it boils down to pass pro, like with Bradford, both can look amazing when they have the time, like all QBs... Unfortunately our OL didn't play good enough sunday.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Stats say Washington Redskins' Kirk Cousins must improve under duress - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

Very True...but again you have to point to Gruden playcalling and scheme adjustments. If your getting your ass kicked on the Oline most the game, well dammit, you adjust and give help starting in the 3rd quarter.

you don't keep running 3 wide and empty sets...


Bradford had a clean pocket last night...give Cousins the same pocket, we probably win the game. Oline must step the fuck up

[DYoungJelly]

A little off topic, but it is so stupid to have 12 to 16 different running schemes. With that many different blocking schemes, asst least one person on every play is missing an assignment.

Cut it in half, simplify, and execute. We have the talent to run the ball. I don't know how much is Jay, how much is Callahan but this is so frustratingly stupid.

[over the mountain]

A win in September counts as much as a win in December.

Defense run game was much better but allowing 8/14 3rd down conversions is a killer. TOP favored Eagles by a good margin.

Cousins INT was ugly. Right read, right decision .... horrible mechanics and throw. That was a gimme TD.

Controversial fumble call to basically end the game. I think Kirk may have had an empty hand going forward, ball was loose/coming out before pressure or hand going forward. idk ...

[skinsfaninok]

In the NFL any win is a huge win, you only play 16 games.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Very True...but again you have to point to Gruden playcalling and scheme adjustments. If your getting your ass kicked on the Oline most the game, well dammit, you adjust and give help starting in the 3rd quarter.

you don't keep running 3 wide and empty sets...


Bradford had a clean pocket last night...give Cousins the same pocket, we probably win the game. Oline must step the fuck up

Yes, I agree that adjustments are sorely lacking. I also feel that JG gives lip service to running the ball better but he hasn't shown the commitment to make that happen. Gruden has eliminated the true FB position and he doesn't seem to appreciate key role players, such as a blocking TE.

D Young was a damn fine FB but he was dumped. Just go back and look at his beastly run blocking and compare it to the few times Gruden uses Niles Paul in that role. There is a huge difference.

BTW, why are three of our TE's exactly the same type of player, none of whom can block for shit? Do you mean to tell me that a coach who really wants to run the ball can't get his FO to go out and find him a blocking TE? I mean a beast! If Gruden really wanted to run the ball, he would find that beast now and trade for him. You know, a ROLE PLAYER. Who gives a damn if he can catch the ball or not? Not me.

Gruden also put our most productive RB in the dog house and then cut him over fumbling issues. Neither Fat Rob nor Perrine hit the hole for shit. They slow down at the LOS and dance. At least Brown hits it hard and he's the most likely RB to break off a long run. He should get some chances.

I'm convinced that the root cause of our problems running the ball is the lack of commitment on the part of our HC to make it happen - whatever it takes. Talk is cheap and I'm no longer listening to Gruden's empty words about getting the running game going.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by insane4theskinsi

snyder is a billionaire,that means he knew basic business at some point.he has picked nothing but shitty football people since he bought the team,vinny,shanny,allen,and everything from the pro scouts have shit the bed since he hired them with the exception of scotty m.how the hell does he not see how they have all just been total failures.malcolm kelly,rod gardner,jason campbell,rg3,all basically complete failures as players,and now doctson. how the hell is the guy that blind?

I am not going to call these two shitty. While I am not fond of Vinny his track record elsewhere suggests a decent football acumen. I think the problem is the first name you mentioned.

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes, I agree that adjustments are sorely lacking. I also feel that JG gives lip service to running the ball better but he hasn't shown the commitment to make that happen. Gruden has eliminated the true FB position and he doesn't seem to appreciate key role players, such as a blocking TE.

D Young was a damn fine FB but he was dumped. Just go back and look at his beastly run blocking and compare it to the few times Gruden uses Niles Paul in that role. There is a huge difference.

BTW, why are three of our TE's exactly the same type of player, none of whom can block for shit? Do you mean to tell me that a coach who really wants to run the ball can't get his FO to go out and find him a blocking TE? I mean a beast! If Gruden really wanted to run the ball, he would find that beast now and trade for him. You know, a ROLE PLAYER. Who gives a damn if he can catch the ball or not? Not me.

Gruden also put our most productive RB in the dog house and then cut him over fumbling issues. Neither Fat Rob nor Perrine hit the hole for shit. They slow down at the LOS and dance. At least Brown hits it hard and he's the most likely RB to break off a long run. He should get some chances.

I'm convinced that the root cause of our problems running the ball is the lack of commitment on the part of our HC to make it happen - whatever it takes. Talk is cheap and I'm no longer listening to Gruden's empty words about getting the running game going.

The idea of having the Skins become a running team just isn't relevant in the modern NFL. Its not that running is unimportant but its passing that's most important now and the top salaries reflect that. However the Skins move the chains doesn't matter but they have to get better at making that happen.

[btfoom]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk is a proven slow starter, I think it would be wise to ease up with the constant contract analysis.

The problem is that when you ask to be paid like the top in the profession, you are expected to play like the top in the profession. He again showed that he is not in - or anyway near - the top in the league.

I wonder why more folks here aren't as upset as I am that Gruden called that TO with about one minute to go in the first half. The Skins were winning and the Eagles had a 3rd and long in their own half. Let them run out the clock - not like the Skins offense was just running up and down the field - and get out of there with a lead. Instead, TO, Eagles make first down, score on last play of half. That was a heartbreaker, especially considering the Skins had to kick right back to them.