The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The interesting thing is that teams this year are outwardly showing their desire for free agents, more than I have seen before. This is tampering, the Redskins need to trade Cousins, the well is poisoned.

How do you trade a FREE AGENT ?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

How do you trade a FREE AGENT ?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Ha!
There are a ton of QB starved teams and Cousins is gong to reap the rewards for this type of market. Should be interesting to watch. We have no leverage to try anything other than sign him.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

How do you trade a FREE AGENT ?

Exclusive rights franchise and trade. Most of you are snippy and presumptuous... however, you don't understand how the franchise tag works, nor free agency for that matter.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Exclusive rights franchise and trade. Most of you are snippy and presumptuous... however, you don't understand how the franchise tag works, nor free agency for that matter.

This would work w/ a team that could absorb 34 million. A team like Cleveland could easily do it.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This would work w/ a team that could absorb 34 million. A team like Cleveland could easily do it.

The receiving team has the ability to negotiate a long-term deal with the player up and until July 15th. Therefore, the Redskins can ask Cousins's agent to seek out a trade and he can negotiate a long-term deal with that new team as they see fit. If the deal is struck, the player no longer counts 34 mm against the cap for the new team.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The receiving team has the ability to negotiate a long-term deal with the player up and until July 15th. Therefore, the Redskins can ask Cousins's agent to seek out a trade and he can negotiate a long-term deal with that new team as they see fit. If the deal is struck, the player no longer counts 34 mm against the cap for the new team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag

I think you mean "non-exclusive rights franchise tag":

A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five cap hits at the player's position for the previous five years applied to the current salary cap, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if the player signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.


So what we should do is on the first day we are able to schedule a meeting with Cousins team and let them know we are coming with a serious offer. Make the offer and discuss it with them, giving a deadline for decision or counteroffer...which will be before the franchise tag can be given.

Then if they deny or plaining state we don't want to be here...say that is fine, but this is a business. Let them know we are applying a non-exclusive franchise tag and tell them to negotiate a deal with another team contingent on at least one first round draft as compensation along with additional picks.


This is the right plan, correct?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag

I think you mean "non-exclusive rights franchise tag":

A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five cap hits at the player's position for the previous five years applied to the current salary cap, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if the player signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.


So what we should do is on the first day we are able to schedule a meeting with Cousins team and let them know we are coming with a serious offer. Make the offer and discuss it with them, giving a deadline for decision or counteroffer...which will be before the franchise tag can be given.

Then if they deny or plaining state we don't want to be here...say that is fine, but this is a business. Let them know we are applying a non-exclusive franchise tag and tell them to negotiate a deal with another team contingent on at least one first round draft as compensation along with additional picks.


This is the right plan, correct?

It's against the CBA's rules to apply a non-exclusive franchise tag on the third iteration. Since he's been franchised twice in two consecutive seasons, the only franchise tag the Skins can apply this year is the exclusive.

Kirk would have to sign it first, and then the team would have to grant Cousins permission to speak with other teams about trades. If no deal is struck to every party's liking, then the Redskins would be stuck with a $34.4M cap hit this year, and have until July 15 to negotiate a long term deal.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's against the CBA's rules to apply a non-exclusive franchise tag on the third iteration. Since he's been franchised twice in two consecutive seasons, the only franchise tag the Skins can apply this year is the exclusive.

Kirk would have to sign it first, and then the team would have to grant Cousins permission to speak with other teams about trades. If no deal is struck to every party's liking, then the Redskins would be stuck with a $34.4M cap hit this year, and have until July 15 to negotiate a long term deal.

thanks for the clarity!

I think id still tag and negotiate as a trade only if we couldn't get a long term deal with cousins first. once the tag is applied id tell everyone we are trading him for fair compensation