With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

[Chico23231]

Scrolling across the bottom of espn screen...Redskins: only team to allow at least 4.5 yards per rush the last 3 season.

I can’t stress this enough, NT/DT is a major fucking need. It’s pathetic...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Scrolling across the bottom of espn screen...Redskins: only team to allow at least 4.5 yards per rush the last 3 season.



I can’t stress this enough, NT/DT is a major fucking need. It’s pathetic...

2.7 yards per rush last year when Jonathan Allen and Matt ionitas were healthy. We definitely need to upgrade at DT, but we made upgrades last year - we were just decimated by injuries so we didn’t get to see the improvement over the course of the entire year that we should have seen. This draft is also supposedly fairly deep at NT. It’s not imperative to reach for Vea or Payne when there should be a far superior player like Fitzpatrick, smith, James or Edmunds still on the board.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

2.7 yards per rush last year when Jonathan Allen and Matt ionitas were healthy. We definitely need to upgrade at DT, but we made upgrades last year - we were just decimated by injuries so we didn’t get to see the improvement over the course of the entire year that we should have seen. This draft is also supposedly fairly deep at NT. It’s not imperative to reach for Vea or Payne when there should be a far superior player like Fitzpatrick, smith, James or Edmunds still on the board.


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We shouldn’t reach, but an entire offseason and NOT get NT again is completely and utterly incompetentence by the front office. It’s not a coincidence that we haven’t had a viable NT these 3 years and have averaged 4.5 ypc against, worst inthe league. I really really wished we have gotten Hankins.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I really really wished we have gotten Hankins.

We still can. I think if we don’t get a NT in rounds 1 or 2, we’ll sign Hankins.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We shouldn’t reach, but an entire offseason and NOT get NT again is completely and utterly incompetentence by the front office. It’s not a coincidence that we haven’t had a viable NT these 3 years and have averaged 4.5 ypc against, worst inthe league. I really really wished we have gotten Hankins.

Depending on the draft we definitely could still get Hankins, but it would have been nice to have him up front. That said, my biggest fear with this FO is that they continue to ignore the glaring need at NT.

Part of my hope that the Giants take Barkley revolves around forcing our FO to take run defense more serious.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Scrolling across the bottom of espn screen...Redskins: only team to allow at least 4.5 yards per rush the last 3 season.



I can’t stress this enough, NT/DT is a major fucking need. It’s pathetic...

Yet im seemingly the only one on this board who would consider Vea anything more than a consolation prize at 13.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yet im seemingly the only one on this board who would consider Vea anything more than a consolation prize at 13.

Because he can't penetrate. Allen and Ioannidis would be your nickel package DTs in pass rush situations.

He would impact the run game for sure but that's not enough if I could get James, Fitzpatrick, Roquan Smith or Edmunds instead.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because he can't penetrate. Allen and Ioannidis would be your nickel package DTs in pass rush situations.



He would impact the run game for sure but that's not enough if I could get James, Fitzpatrick, Roquan Smith or Edmunds instead.

He cannot penetrate if he gets double teamed. But others will in that case. Tomsula will turn this guy into a three down player in no time. He has a quick first step and the raw tools are all there. Just needs to be coached up. Until that happens ill take third and long all Sunday every Sunday. When it does happen he and Allen will anchor a ferocious front 7. Like I said he is going to be the pick unless someone nabs him first. Guys his size with his athleticism just dont come around often. Let our coaches work on his pass rushing and enjoy the show.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He cannot penetrate if he gets double teamed. But others will in that case. Tomsula will turn this guy into a three down player in no time. He has a quick first step and the raw tools are all there. Just needs to be coached up. Until that happens ill take third and long all Sunday every Sunday. When it does happen he and Allen will anchor a ferocious front 7. Like I said he is going to be the pick unless someone nabs him first. Guys his size with his athleticism just dont come around often. Let our coaches work on his pass rushing and enjoy the show.

Vehemently disagree that he has a quick first step, that just does not show up on tape. He is often among the last out of his stance. He performed at Washington by straight up tossing dudes aside, which has value. But he has shown nothing in college leading me to believe he has a quick first step.

Could Tomsula coach him up? Sure. But so could Torrian Gray with Minkah or Derwin James.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Vehemently disagree that he has a quick first step, that just does not show up on tape. He is often among the last out of his stance. He performed at Washington by straight up tossing dudes aside, which has value. But he has shown nothing in college leading me to believe he has a quick first step.



Could Tomsula coach him up? Sure. But so could Torrian Gray with Minkah or Derwin James.

Everything i read about this guy says he is freaky fast for 350. 5.10 40. A ton of comparisons to Haloti Ngata only more athletic. Ability to actually line up at different spots along the line. I admittedly have not watched Cooleys breakdown but my God he must have a different opinion of the skill sets this guy has than every other talking head in the business.
Anyway Im stoked for the draft and im going to stop trying to sell you guys on Vea now - finish work - buy something really delicious from the micro brew cooler - and watch us knock the first two rounds out of the park! HTTR!
Still praying that somehow we stick at 13 and trade way back into the second to pick up a third. If we have to throw in a fourth rounder in 19 im fine with that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Everything i read about this guy says he is freaky fast for 350.

That is a sentence I never expected to read on this board.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Because he can't penetrate. Allen and Ioannidis would be your nickel package DTs in pass rush situations.

He would impact the run game for sure but that's not enough if I could get James, Fitzpatrick, Roquan Smith or Edmunds instead.

Yes which is why I hope we trade back and take Hurst who can do BOTH penetrate and stuff the run, his health issue has been cleared but it has caused his stock to fall.