When is Enough ,Enough?

CRedskinsRule · 07-03-2018, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

It's beyond scary,it's dangerous.

Move to Canada or Mexico.

CRedskinsRule · 07-03-2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nat...ce-after-wwii/

This is going to be a huge problem. Maybe the republican congress should stop spending so much money.

Giantone · 07-03-2018, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Its not a puppet when you can discuss with rational thought. This is a thing you dont even try to do. You simply dismiss non like minded people as cultists, which is a very offensive term.

Here we go, I dismiss? No,no more than you do. That is what is so hard for you to understand you are exactly what it is you disdain and you just can't see it.To me when you follow blindly like the trump cult does thee is no other word for it but puppet,you know like trump is for putin. To you a rational thought is anyone that agrees with you yet your post's prove other wise.

CRedskinsRule · 07-03-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Here we go, I dismiss? No,no more than you do. That is what is so hard for you to understand you are exactly what it is you disdain and you just can't see it.To me when you follow blindly like the trump cult does thee is no other word for it but puppet,you know like trump is for putin. To you a rational thought is anyone that agrees with you yet your post's prove other wise.

I really prefer not to dismiss you, in fact i asked you to offer proof of your claim, but you dont even try. So we end up speaking past each other at this point, and at this point there is no need to really continue the divergence.

I have posted links about critical thinking skills because of conversations similar to this with you before. I found it to be one of the best college classes i ever took and recommend similar studies to everyone.

A good discussion doesnt mean we all agree in fact its better if we disagree and discuss points and counterpoints, looking at and actually debating the issues and their merits.

mooby · 07-04-2018, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

And still it's a bunch of hot air about Russia. Vladimir Putin, head of KGB, has been working to influence US elections since Walter Mondale sucked up to the Russians.
I give a rat's ass if Trump talked or didn't talk to them. If Putin thought Trump was going to win, he would have focused more efforts to help HRC. That's just what enemy countries do.

The dems and libs are going to have a meltdown when the republicans win bigly this election, and Trump appoints a 3rd constitutional justice making the balance 6 to 3.

It would be funny if it weren't depressing to here them scream russia russia russia like little girls.

I really can't believe you're still stuck on Putin's trying to influence the election. That's old news now. Everybody not named Trump or House Republicans agree he did.

Bear with me for a moment because I know this is nothing more than a mere concept to us non-Mueller investigators. But what if the real concern isn't Putin doing whatever he can to get Trump elected, but Trump's loans from Deutsche Bank coming from illegal money laundering out of Russia? What if Trump owed Russian oligarchs connected to Putin money? You don't think owing debt to any Putin-connected Russian would be a serious conflict of interest as POTUS?

Seriously, ignore my theory if you must as I have nothing to back it up, but it's just starting to sound like you're tired of hearing Russia mentioned so you couldn't care less what they do, or who they did it with, or if there's any actual legit crimes there. Have you started thinking up an excuse for if/when Mueller completes the investigation and makes his recommendation to Congress? If you've ever watched any of those reality crime shows, it's a classic technique. Start at the bottom and keep flipping guys until you reach the guy at the top. Cohen is next. And as Trump's fixer, there really aren't that many guys left to flip.

CRedskinsRule · 07-04-2018, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I really can't believe you're still stuck on Putin's trying to influence the election. That's old news now. Everybody not named Trump or House Republicans agree he did.

Bear with me for a moment because I know this is nothing more than a mere concept to us non-Mueller investigators. But what if the real concern isn't Putin doing whatever he can to get Trump elected, but Trump's loans from Deutsche Bank coming from illegal money laundering out of Russia? What if Trump owed Russian oligarchs connected to Putin money? You don't think owing debt to any Putin-connected Russian would be a serious conflict of interest as POTUS?

Seriously, ignore my theory if you must as I have nothing to back it up, but it's just starting to sound like you're tired of hearing Russia mentioned so you couldn't care less what they do, or who they did it with, or if there's any actual legit crimes there. Have you started thinking up an excuse for if/when Mueller completes the investigation and makes his recommendation to Congress? If you've ever watched any of those reality crime shows, it's a classic technique. Start at the bottom and keep flipping guys until you reach the guy at the top. Cohen is next. And as Trump's fixer, there really aren't that many guys left to flip.

First, i do think russia tried to influence our election. I think they have been trying to influence our elections for as long as i can remember.

The DB angle is very plausible unfortunately, again the Soviets then, and russians now, certainly are not restrained from trying to blackmail or manipulate any one they can.

I still do think the overall effect is overblown by the hate trump media. So i will wait and withhold judgement until all the cards are laid out.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Move to Canada or Mexico.

.........that would be what is best for the cult and fuck the country,if all the people in America who see the truth just moved out. I admit it would make it easier for trump to turn it over to putin.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Move to Canada or Mexico.

....great "critical thinking skills".

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

So the fear mongering and hyperbole is ridiculous...typical media sensationalism that some eat up.
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So who is doing it .....................

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/affd1c8...ins-about.html

FOX makes up a BS stat and trump perpetuates it! Why , to deceive, misdirect and create fear and hate among voters and the American people but hey keep your head in the sand.

CRedskinsRule · 07-04-2018, 08:17 AM

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....great "critical thinking skills".

If having a court filled with justices who rely on the plain text meaning of our country's baseline legal document is scary to you, then moving to a country whose constitution and laws more closely align with your own. If people want a more federalistic socialistic nation, Canada is a very reasonable choice. If you have a strong desire to help struggling people in their own land Mexico might be a fine choice.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 11:17 AM

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If having a court filled with justices who rely on the plain text meaning of our country's baseline legal document is scary to you, then moving to a country whose constitution and laws more closely align with your own. If people want a more federalistic socialistic nation, Canada is a very reasonable choice. If you have a strong desire to help struggling people in their own land Mexico might be a fine choice.

Since you seem to have the problem let me know how your move works out for you?

Seems your view of the Supreme Court is as skewed as your view of the President of the United States ,not surprising at all.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 11:18 AM

Got to love it!

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CRedskinsRule · 07-04-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Since you seem to have the problem let me know how your move works out for you?

You said a 6-3 supreme court balance is a dangerous thing, not me.

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Originally Posted by Giantone

It's beyond scary,it's dangerous.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You said a 6-3 supreme court balance is a scary thing, not me.

Please reread that post I did edit it.

Giantone · 07-04-2018, 11:31 AM

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You said a 6-3 supreme court balance is a dangerous thing, not me.

Yes I did and it is but please show me the post I said I would leave the country becuase of it,I'll wait.

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When is Enough ,Enough?

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