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Old 08-13-2018, 09:48 AM   #1
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.

If we are consistently among the teams who are hurt most by injuries, year after year, shouldn't somebody at Redskins Park be trying to find out why and fix it? The frequency of some types of injuries can be reduced. The attitude of "Shit happens; next man up!" just doesn't get it, IMO.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:35 AM   #2
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If we are consistently among the teams who are hurt most by injuries, year after year, shouldn't somebody at Redskins Park be trying to find out why and fix it? The frequency of some types of injuries can be reduced. The attitude of "Shit happens; next man up!" just doesn't get it, IMO.
How do you fix a rb getting tackled, falls down funny and rips his knee? How do you fix Jordan Reed being as durable as a wine glass?
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Old 08-13-2018, 12:00 PM   #3
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How do you fix a rb getting tackled, falls down funny and rips his knee? How do you fix Jordan Reed being as durable as a wine glass?
They knew that Reed was often hurt in college when the drafted him. Perhaps they should have drafted somebody else in that spot. I'm talking here about a team policy designed to reduce the number of games lost to injuries and not specifically about Reed.
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They knew that Reed was often hurt in college when the drafted him. Perhaps they should have drafted somebody else in that spot. I'm talking here about a team policy designed to reduce the number of games lost to injuries and not specifically about Reed.
Well that is then another discussion about management. My point was a lot of this is just terrible luck. Allen with a foot fracture last year, just some unlucky shit.

It seems like Gruden has made the practices more physical this camp, from what we've heard.
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If we are consistently among the teams who are hurt most by injuries, year after year, shouldn't somebody at Redskins Park be trying to find out why and fix it? The frequency of some types of injuries can be reduced. The attitude of "Shit happens; next man up!" just doesn't get it, IMO.
They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?
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They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?
Not my job to find that answer. They need to do that.
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Not my job to find that answer. They need to do that.
I agree, and I'd put an "s" to "answer".

There are plenty of ways to try to reduce the amount of injuries.

I remember last year, Jay was asked about the injury bug decimating his team, and if the staff was trying to do something about it, and he dismissed the question, laughing like if it was obviously un-relevant, saying "don't worry, our players drink a lot of water".

Well, maybe in 2018 we can have access to better body science than just drinking a lot of water.

Did you guys look at the first episode of Hard Knocks?
You can see Jarvis Landry having a weird looking work out where he's standing on one leg on a moving tray, throwing and catching a heavy medicine ball.
Both the tray and the ball are tools used by physiotherapists to improve proprioception.
Basically it's another way to train your muscles, in a way that they don't need to be activated consciously, but react instinctively and quicker instead.

I just checked, Jarvis Landry never missed a game due to injury.

And then you think about TB12's success with his personal trainer.

Can you get injuries out of football? Of course not.

My point simply is, yes there are plenty of solutions that needs to be looked at (nutrition, innovating workouts, warm ups, field condition etc...).

Not saying our staff is not looking at these solutions, but the amount of injuries year after year suggest maybe more needs to be done.
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I agree, and I'd put an "s" to "answer".

There are plenty of ways to try to reduce the amount of injuries.

I remember last year, Jay was asked about the injury bug decimating his team, and if the staff was trying to do something about it, and he dismissed the question, laughing like if it was obviously un-relevant, saying "don't worry, our players drink a lot of water".

Well, maybe in 2018 we can have access to better body science than just drinking a lot of water.

Did you guys look at the first episode of Hard Knocks?
You can see Jarvis Landry having a weird looking work out where he's standing on one leg on a moving tray, throwing and catching a heavy medicine ball.
Both the tray and the ball are tools used by physiotherapists to improve proprioception.
Basically it's another way to train your muscles, in a way that they don't need to be activated consciously, but react instinctively and quicker instead.

I just checked, Jarvis Landry never missed a game due to injury.

And then you think about TB12's success with his personal trainer.

Can you get injuries out of football? Of course not.

My point simply is, yes there are plenty of solutions that needs to be looked at (nutrition, innovating workouts, warm ups, field condition etc...).

Not saying our staff is not looking at these solutions, but the amount of injuries year after year suggest maybe more needs to be done.
they just built a state of the art treatment, prevention and recovery center . . . the science is there . . . luck, for whatever reason has not been
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they just built a state of the art treatment, prevention and recovery center . . . the science is there . . . luck, for whatever reason has not been
Browns OL coach doesn't believe in stretching...

Sorry but when I hear shit like that (and maybe he's playing a character for the cameras), I think we're allowed to wonder if all coaching staffs really do give their players access to the best body science available...
He's not in charge of strength (god why is the "t" in between the "g" and the "h" in this word? doesn't make any sense!) and conditioning, but to hear that level of nonsense at that level of football and then see the amount of pulled hamstrings in the game makes me question the overall culture of taking care of your body in this sport.

I remember reading any article where a former player bragged about partying late in the night just before games... Well buddy if you didn't sleep, have alcohol in your blood and don't stretch, I won't be surprised when you pull your hamstring, or sprain your ankle, or even tear one of your knee's ligaments on a seemingly harmless play...
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They spent millions of dollars trying to fix that by building new facilities, getting new training staff, etc. . . . what is the answer?
Knee ligaments are one of those things that can go any time regardless of prep.

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Knee ligaments are one of those things that can go any time regardless of prep.

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exactly . . . you can't predict them, nor avoid them really . . . they happen to every team . . . usually at the rate of like 30 per preseason (or something like that)
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