Trading Patrick Ramsey

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Carnage

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72
The Jets would be pretty dumb to make that move straight up.

or desperate

I think desperate is closer to the truth. Chad Pennington is good, but he's going to be walking with a cane soon. He's as frail as an old lady. I'm sure many coaches have seen game film of the pounding that Ramsey took on a regular basis, but continued to get up and play. Herm Edwards is one of those coaches that believes in supporting his players, almost to a fault, and he probably thinks Ramsey could perform well, given the opportunity. Coles might be dropping hints to him also, since he was Ramseys' favorite target.

If Ramsey could develop into a solid, mid tier QB(Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, etc.), he would be far more valuable to the Jets than even a stud defensive end like Abraham.

[offiss]

Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

[Misterbillysells]

Originally Posted by offiss

Everyone forgets Abraham sitting out the playoffs last season because he said he didn't want to jeopordize his upcoming contract, sounds like a real Gibbs type player, teams just may have a more favorable opinion of Ramsey than we do.

Thank You. I couldnt agree more. Everyday Gibbs talks about how proud he is of guys playing injured and these are regular season games. Abraham sat out in the playoffs when his coaches thought he was ready to play. Even TO wasnt that selfish. Abraham is not a Joe Gibbs kinda player so theres no doubt that he wont be traded for Ramsey. Remember the Jets called the skins early in the season looking for a trade. Im sure Abraham was on the table then and joe gibbs didnt bite and Im sure he wont change his mind anytime soon.

[Beemnseven]

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

everyone besides you considers lately as in "since gibbs got here" instead of including the horrible spurrier era GM'ing...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

What does Gibbs have to do with anything before 2004?

That's what we're talking about here, the current front office and the moves that have been made since Gibbs came back.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

Nobody's is asserting the front office is perfect. What I and the majority of posters are saying is that, since Gibbs 2.0 came around, we have been more conservative in our signings. And, since Gibbs 2.0 began, we are 11 - 13 and likely to have an overall winning record at the end of two seasons.

There has been a sea change at Redskins Park. The front office is marching to a different tune. Give credit where credit is due.

Rabach, Griffin, Washington, Springs. Good solid signings. Don't expect to see anymore Deion or Bruce signings. Expect them to occasionally sign a big name or two IF he has the right attitude and isn't asking for the bank (a' la Musin Muhammed). Expect them to occasionally take a flyer on an injured pro on the comeback and willing to play cheap (Barrow, Walt Harris). Expect them to make quality offers to their homegrown guys but not promise them the moon. Expect them to look for quality team guys who they think can make a difference.

Check back in 2007 - Then tell me what a crappy front office we have. I expect that it will continue to improve as Joe leaves his mark and teaches Danny a thing or two about how to run a sports team.

Are they gonna continue to make mistakes? yup. Do they seem to have learned from past mistakes? yup. Are they in the class of the Eagles and Patriots in terms of respect? Nope. Are they headed in that direction? Yup.

Sometimes I think people just gotta have something to bitch about.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Nobody's is asserting the front office is perfect. What I and the majority of posters are saying is that, since Gibbs 2.0 came around, we have been more conservative in our signings. And, since Gibbs 2.0 began, we are 11 - 13 and likely to have an overall winning record at the end of two seasons.

There has been a sea change at Redskins Park. The front office is marching to a different tune. Give credit where credit is due.

Rabach, Griffin, Washington, Springs. Good solid signings. Don't expect to see anymore Deion or Bruce signings. Expect them to occasionally sign a big name or two IF he has the right attitude and isn't asking for the bank (a' la Musin Muhammed). Expect them to occasionally take a flyer on an injured pro on the comeback and willing to play cheap (Barrow, Walt Harris). Expect them to make quality offers to their homegrown guys but not promise them the moon. Expect them to look for quality team guys who they think can make a difference.

Check back in 2007 - Then tell me what a crappy front office we have. I expect that it will continue to improve as Joe leaves his mark and teaches Danny a thing or two about how to run a sports team.

Are they gonna continue to make mistakes? yup. Do they seem to have learned from past mistakes? yup. Are they in the class of the Eagles and Patriots in terms of respect? Nope. Are they headed in that direction? Yup.

Sometimes I think people just gotta have something to bitch about.

I'm praying they dont embarrass us and sign T O but then again he would catch Td's but i wonder if anyone else has had this scary thought

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

If you're going to have that argument, you might as well go all the way back to 1994. You see how senseless it is?

Looking at the front office and the current Redskins staff in place, which makes perfect sense, the only real disappointment has been Mike Barrow. Well gee...ya know, one bad move out of all the other ones is a pretty good track record in my opinion.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

If you're going to have that argument, you might as well go all the way back to 1994. You see how senseless it is?

Looking at the front office and the current Redskins staff in place, which makes perfect sense, the only real disappointment has been Mike Barrow. Well gee...ya know, one bad move out of all the other ones is a pretty good track record in my opinion.

and barrow was cheap compared to his expected production...