Dallas postgame

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

I think our entire health and conditioning department needs to go too. Way too many injuries.


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How are they responsible for torn knees, broken ribs, compound fractures, high ankle sprains or pectoral tears? It’s called bad luck.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How are they responsible for torn knees, broken ribs, compound fractures, high ankle sprains or pectoral tears? It’s called bad luck.

Yea. Englehart is a top tier s&c coach.

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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Yea. Englehart is a top tier s&c coach.

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We need to fire someone!!!


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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How are they responsible for torn knees, broken ribs, compound fractures, high ankle sprains or pectoral tears? It’s called bad luck.

As far as O-Line injuries go, wasn't it speculated by some that Bill Callahan was just "too hard" on the guys? Now for sure they don't want to do cream puff practices but could there be any truth to it?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

As far as O-Line injuries go, wasn't it speculated by some that Bill Callahan was just "too hard" on the guys? Now for sure they don't want to do cream puff practices but could there be any truth to it?

Someone needs to be hard on these guys. Who’s our secondary coach? Does he just diddle himself all day? I never hear anything about that guy and our secondary is atrocious. By the way Swearinger talks, you’d think he was a player and the secondary coach.


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Someone needs to be hard on these guys. Who’s our secondary coach? Does he just diddle himself all day? I never hear anything about that guy and our secondary is atrocious. By the way Swearinger talks, you’d think he was a player and the secondary coach.


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The secondary coach can't stop Moreau from playing like a pussy. He was in position on the 90 yarder. All he had to do was turn his head around and he probably could've made a play on the ball. The guy has no ball skills.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The secondary coach can't stop Moreau from playing like a pussy. He was in position on the 90 yarder. All he had to do was turn his head around and he probably could've made a play on the ball. The guy has no ball skills.

Instead of going for the tackle to get Cooper down #31 foolishly goes for the strip\fumble....Cooper keeps his legs moving and #31 slips off of him freeing Cooper to run a million miles to the end zone....when I saw the replay I just shook my head....

[Buffalo Bob]

I know some of the responses are sarcasm, but for serious ones it is quite interesting to reread the pregame comments before reading the during and post game ones. If the Redskins were a politician their approval rating went from 75% down to single digits in no time flat.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

As far as O-Line injuries go, wasn't it speculated by some that Bill Callahan was just "too hard" on the guys? Now for sure they don't want to do cream puff practices but could there be any truth to it?

How do you explain someone rolling on your knee and tearing your ACL, tearing your pectoral muscle? This has nothing to do with conditioning, Redskins players are not the only NFL players to suffer this type of injuries.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How do you explain someone rolling on your knee and tearing your ACL, tearing your pectoral muscle? This has nothing to do with conditioning, Redskins players are not the only NFL players to suffer this type of injuries.

No they are not. But when you are an average to below average team with little depth those injuries stand out big time. We aren’t exactly at the plug and play level, and even if we had that kind of depth Jay Gruden could never get them ready to play. Good teams with good coaching staffs and or good quarterbacks can mask injuries alot easier. Shit Tom Brady went down and the Pats finished 11-5. Big Ben went down and the Steelers trucked through it. The Packers lost half their team a few years ago and they were A - OK. Eagles lost Wentz - superbowl. Because they have a strong foundation. The Skins lose a stud or two and they get exposed. So until we got a FO and a coaching staff that can overcome that shit we will flounder. It isn’t about conditioning it is about preparedness. 53 players. Depth. When 35-40 of those 53 are meh a team is in deep doo doo. Couple that with the fact that your Coaching staff is sub par and forget it. They don’t buy in to the system like they do with strong successful teams.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No they are not. But when you are an average to below average team with little depth those injuries stand out big time. We aren’t exactly at the plug and play level, and even if we had that kind of depth Jay Gruden could never get them ready to play. Good teams with good coaching staffs and or good quarterbacks can mask injuries alot easier. Shit Tom Brady went down and the Pats finished 11-5. Big Ben went down and the Steelers trucked through it. The Packers lost half their team a few years ago and they were A - OK. Eagles lost Wentz - superbowl. Because they have a strong foundation. The Skins lose a stud or two and they get exposed. So until we got a FO and a coaching staff that can overcome that shit we will flounder. It isn’t about conditioning it is about preparedness. 53 players. Depth. When 35-40 of those 53 are meh a team is in deep doo doo. Couple that with the fact that your Coaching staff is sub par and forget it. They don’t buy in to the system like they do with strong successful teams.

When you lose 2 OG, 2RB, 2WR, QB, LT for a few games you are going to suffer no matter who you are. Guice projected starter, Thompson key offensive weapon, Scherff and Williams pro-bowlers, your key slot receiver, highly paid FA acquisition WR. I say shitty luck.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

When you lose 2 OG, 2RB, 2WR, QB, LT for a few games you are going to suffer no matter who you are. Guice projected starter, Thompson key offensive weapon, Scherff and Williams pro-bowlers, your key slot receiver, highly paid FA acquisition WR. I say shitty luck.

I think it is more than luck. Going back to 2014 the Redskins have been at the bottom in terms of adjusted games lost:

2014 they lost 89.5 games and were ranked 24th
2015 they lost 119.1 games and were ranked 31st
2016 they lost 99.0 games and ranked 25th
2017 they lost 121.0 games and ranked 32nd

Very few teams were as bad as us over the last four years. Could it be luck? sure, but I think there are other factors at play here. Losing this much time for this long of a period is a trend.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...ted-games-lost

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...ted-games-lost

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I think it is more than luck. Going back to 2014 the Redskins have been at the bottom in terms of adjusted games lost:

2014 they lost 89.5 games and were ranked 24th
2015 they lost 119.1 games and were ranked 31st
2016 they lost 99.0 games and ranked 25th
2017 they lost 121.0 games and ranked 32nd

Very few teams were as bad as us over the last four years. Could it be luck? sure, but I think there are other factors at play here. Losing this much time for this long of a period is a trend.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...ted-games-lost

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...ted-games-lost

Glad somebody was able to find that, I was wondering if such statistics existed. Pretty obvious to me those numbers point to more than coincidence. What factors are involved who knows, while many injuries are unpreventable some are. Are the Redskins taking too many players with injury histories? Are the players not properly stretched and warned up before games and practices? Are slight injuries not treated properly and turn into big ones?
Are practices too hard or too easy? Poor game management, are players that need a few plays off left in, as a fatigued player is more susceptible to injury?
The problem could be the front office all the way down to the guy taping ankles.

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

When you lose 2 OG, 2RB, 2WR, QB, LT for a few games you are going to suffer no matter who you are. Guice projected starter, Thompson key offensive weapon, Scherff and Williams pro-bowlers, your key slot receiver, highly paid FA acquisition WR. I say shitty luck.

I hear all of that. What you fail to mention is that this offense wasn't any good when those guys were healthy. In fact our offense hasn't been good since Sean McVay, Desean Jackson, and Garcon left the team. We got even worse this year without Kirk Cousins. It wouldn't have mattered if we were healthy or not. This offense is still pure trash.