If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by MTK

Smith probably wouldn't have agreed to a "stopgap contract". Nobody could have predicted he would suffer a catastrophic injury. It sucks for both sides. No use in crying about it now.

Alex hasn't been an injury-prone QB. He may have not agreed to a 1-2 year deal, why should he? But Bruce signed a 35-year old QB for a 5-year contract, based on his wins, which he got by playing a "no mistakes" brand of football for very good teams.

Allen should have sucked it up with a one-year QB until we could draft for a franchise QB. I'm not blaming Alex smith, he got the most that he could and unfortunately got hurt. I'm blaming Bruce Allen for making a dumb personnel move that will cost the 'skins lots of cap money.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Alex hasn't been an injury-prone QB. He may have not agreed to a 1-2 year deal, why should he? But Bruce signed a 35-year old QB for a 5-year contract, based on his wins, which he got by playing a "no mistakes" brand of football for very good teams.

Allen should have sucked it up with a one-year QB until we could draft for a franchise QB. I'm not blaming Alex smith, he got the most that he could and unfortunately got hurt. I'm blaming Bruce Allen for making a dumb personnel move that will cost the 'skins lots of cap money.

Unless you have the foresight of knowing that he was going to have a season/potentially career ending injury, I don't get about the complaints about Smith's contract. People would have gone ape shit here, if they'd sign Keenum last year as a stop gap. QBs are always overpaid, and even a stopgap QB would have cost money.

Also, the team was winning with Alex's "no mistakes" brand of football. Not the way people liked it, but they were winning. And things would have been a hell of a lot better, had Alex stayed healthy.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Unless you have the foresight of knowing that he was going to have a season/potentially career ending injury, I don't get about the complaints about Smith's contract. People would have gone ape shit here, if they'd sign Keenum last year as a stop gap. QBs are always overpaid, and even a stopgap QB would have cost money.

Also, the team was winning with Alex's "no mistakes" brand of football. Not the way people liked it, but they were winning. And things would have been a hell of a lot better, had Alex stayed healthy.

The Redskins were winning with Smith in very close games last year - games which could have gone either way based on just one or two plays. I think our opponents were starting get the measure of Smith - what he could do well and also what he could NOT do and were changing their defenses based on his style of play. The defenses were really starting to shut him down. IF he had stayed healthy last season, I don't think we would have won many more games.

Alex Smith's style of play can help a very good team win games. But those very good teams let him go because his upside is so very limited. If he was a real franchise QB, his former teams wouldn't have dumped him. Bruce Allen mismanaged Kirk Cousins (who we should have let go) and then paid a top salary on a long contract to an aging QB who is decent but not the future QB of this team.

If smith hadn't been hurt, which no one could predict, I think we would have seen why other teams dumped him. He's going to be a cap black hole and will never play a regular-season game for the Redskins.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Unless you have the foresight of knowing that he was going to have a season/potentially career ending injury, I don't get about the complaints about Smith's contract. People would have gone ape shit here, if they'd sign Keenum last year as a stop gap. QBs are always overpaid, and even a stopgap QB would have cost money.

Also, the team was winning with Alex's "no mistakes" brand of football. Not the way people liked it, but they were winning. And things would have been a hell of a lot better, had Alex stayed healthy.

My complaint:

1.Very average QB coming off career year with an offensive guru.
2. Was 33 turning 34 in May when we got him
3. Too long of a contract
4. Decision maker was Bruce Allen, an extensive history of poor handling of the QB position

In terms of Alex season, AP was the MVP, Smith was a benefactor of his success. Plus they were peaking as an offense. Smith was having another garbage game when he got hurt.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My complaint:

1.Very average QB coming off career year with an offensive guru.
2. Was 33 turning 34 in May when we got him
3. Too long of a contract
4. Decision maker was Bruce Allen, an extensive history of poor handling of the QB position

In terms of Alex season, AP was the MVP, Smith was a benefactor of his success. Plus they were peaking as an offense. Smith was having another garbage game when he got hurt.

You're so right! Bruce, hired an aging, VERY AVERAGE QB for a long contract. Why? In the NFL you need an elite, franchise QB to win consistently, season after season. The truth is that Bruce Allen is happy to be average. Only with a potential franchise QB, like Haskins, can this team move up the ladder to the next level.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

You're so right! Bruce, hired an aging, VERY AVERAGE QB for a long contract. Why? In the NFL you need an elite, franchise QB to win consistently, season after season. The truth is that Bruce Allen is happy to be average. Only with a potential franchise QB, like Haskins, can this team move up the ladder to the next level.

Yeah...kinda tired of talking Alex. It didn’t work out.

I’m interested to see how Keenum does in this offense and the development of Haskins. Completely moved on

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah...kinda tired of talking Alex. It didn’t work out.

I’m interested to see how Keenum does in this offense and the development of Haskins. Completely moved on

Yeah, we've had so many average, journeyman, bums or draft bust QB's since the last SB. I'm looking for Haskins to give us the long-term franchise answer at QB. Case Keenum hasn't done it on any other team and won't do it here. But I'll give him a chance in
the pre-season.